STEVE PENNELLS: Very soon, Paul Ferguson would be moved off the Macro Taskforce.

CON BAYENS: Like, he's a good top investigator, um, been in the criminal investigation branch for years, obviously a highly trained investigator and all of a sudden, he's been thrown out. What can you make of that? Once again, you can only speculate. Because in the absence of any explanation, that's all the officers are left with.

STEVE PENNELLS: What did you speculate?

CON BAYENS: He'd rubbed somebody the wrong way and they wanted him out of the show.

STEVE PENNELLS: He was shafted?

Deliberate false and misleading information provided by the Marco Task Force as agents for the police Western Australian Police Service and Government

It seems tha  false and misleading information was provided by the police to the media and by the media to the general public about the last known sightings of  Sarah Spiers, James Rimmer and Ciara Glennon.

Petedavo a registered member on the WebSleuths.com discussion Website forum on the Claremont Serial Killer, states that another member of Bunnie, registered member on the WebSleuths.com, while working for Swan Taxis, and was asked to check the Swan Taxi call in records for Sarah Spiers call for a Swan Taxi states, …..  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth, and when the Swan Taxi arrive did pick her up a few minutes later the taxi driver could not locate Sarah Spiers anywhere, and thus eventually drove off without picking up Sarah Spiers and driver her to her requested destination of South Perth, which is where Sarah Spiers shared an apartment with her sister Amanda Spiers, which was owned by their parents, who lived in the country.

However, for some strange reason the Macro Task Force headed by David John Caporn gave false information to the Channel Nine Producers who produced the documentary on the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders  entitled Crime Investigation Australia - Hunt for a Killer The Claremont Murders...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNNF1E3mg3c

….  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers requested a taxi to Mosman Park ... when the truth of the matter was that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers at around 2.03 am rang Swan Taxi's and requested a taxi to take her to South Perth ... not Mosman Park..

The other possibility that has never been put forward by the police and/or the  mainstream media is that the girl that …..   a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth .. may not have been Sarah Speirs …  there does no seem to be any evidence that is available proving  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth .. was really Sarah Spiers … it could have been a girl pretending to be Sarah Spiers, who was connected to those involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings… to make the false impression that Sarah Speirs ha dnot been abducted at 2.03, when Sarah Spiers left Club Bayview, at around 1.30 am wihich was only a few minutes walk from the phone box on the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont …

Petedavo a registered member on the WebSleuths.com discussion Website forum on the Claremont Serial Killer, states that another member of Bunnie, registered member on the WebSleuths.com, while working for Swan Taxis, and was asked to check the Swan Taxi call in records for Sarah Spiers call for a Swan Taxi states, …..  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth, and when the Swan Taxi arrive did pick her up a few minutes later the taxi driver could not locate Sarah Spiers anywhere, and thus eventually drove off without picking up Sarah Spiers and driver her to her requested destination of South Perth, which is where Sarah Spiers shared an apartment with her sister Amanda Spiers, which was owned by their parents, who lived in the country.

However, for some strange reason the Macro Task Force headed by David John Caporn gave false information to the Channel Nine Producers who produced the documentary on the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders  entitled Crime Investigation Australia - Hunt for a Killer The Claremont Murders...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNNF1E3mg3c

….  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers requested a taxi to Mosman Park ... when the truth of the matter was that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers at around 2.03 am rang Swan Taxi's and requested a taxi to take her to South Perth ... not Mosman Park..

The other possibility that has never been put forward by the police and/or the  mainstream media is that the girl that …..   a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth .. may not have been Sarah Speirs …  there does no seem to be any evidence that is available proving  that a girl calling herself Sarah Spiers rang Swan Taxi's at 2.03 am and requested a taxi to pick her up from the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont, stating that her destination was South Perth .. was really Sarah Spiers … it could have been a girl pretending to be Sarah Spiers, who was connected to those involved in the Claremont Serial Abductions and Killings… to make the false impression that Sarah Speirs ha dnot been abducted at 2.03, when Sarah Spiers left Club Bayview, at around 1.30 am wihich was only a few minutes walk from the phone box on the corner of Stirling Street  and Stirling Highway, Claremont …

University student Emma Clayton and her friends almost picked up a blonde girl she is sure was Jane Rimmer early on the Sunday Morning Jane Rimmer disapeared.
Miss Clayton (21 years old uni student) said she saw the girl staggering along Stirling Highway, thumb out, hitching a lift at 12.30 am. Emma Clayton told police about the incident and her description of the cloths Jane was wearing matched that of a police description which had not been released to the media. Ms Clayton said she and her friends had been in Stirling Highway after leaving a 21st birthday party at Claremont Yacht Club. "Down near Lock Street we saw a girl Hitchhiking," she said. The Girl had her thumb out and we just slowed down and thought maybe we should pick her up but didn't." The conversation between the two couples in the car had been that she was a silly girl for trying to hitch in the area and they discussed whether they should pick the girl up. The decided at the last minute to move on. "we said of all placed for a girl to be hitchhiking alone, this was probably the worst," Miss Clayton said. She said initially, after she had heard of Jane Rimmer's disappearance, she felt guilty that that hadn't picked her up. "If we had picked her up things would have been a lot different, " Miss Clayton said. When she and her friends saw the girl there were no other cars on the Stirling Highway ...

Then when it came to the claimed last sighting of Jane Rimmer on the TV documentary backed up by all the other main stream media ... it was deliberarely presented as a false fact by the Macro Task Force to the producers of the TV documentary that the last known sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12 pm standing outside the Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace, Claremont ... when it was well known to the Macro Task Force and the other main stream media that four University Students from the University of Western Australia saw Jane Rimmer looking quite drunk and hitchhiking along Stirling Highway walking towards the city of Perth direction at around 12.30 am  ... around the corner of Stirling Highway and Loch Street, Claremont ... they were nearly going to pick her up ... but last minute decided not to pick her up .... a decision that they have sincerely regretted ever since ... because if they had picked up Jane Rimmer at around 12.30 am, Jane Rimmer would be likely to have been alive today ... they reported their sighting to the police and correctly discribed what Jane Rimmer was wearing before the police publicly released to the media a description of what Jane Rimmer was wearing the night she was abducted and murdered ...

Also the Nedlands area local community newspaper the ...... Community Times, News Chronical, Nedlands Edition  ..... 

reported the story of their sighting of Jane Rimmer hitchhiking along Stirling Highway walking towards the city of Perth at around 12.30 am..

Why have the Western Australian Police Service and the main stream media colluded to trick the general public into falsely believing that the last known sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12am standing outside the Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace Claremont, and this having all possible witnesses and the general public, that could help the Western Austyralian Police Service and the Western Australian Government solve this most devastating and abhorent crime of the abduction and murder of Jane Rimmer on early Sunday morning  the 9th of June, 1996 ...

Jane Rimmer above

after the four twenty-one year old uni students saw Jane Rimmer Hitchhiking on Stirling Highway

near Lock Street at around 12.30 am staggering as though she was quite drunk.

TheyweregoingtopickupJaneRimmerbutforsomereasondidnotpickupJaneRimmer

even though they commented to each other

that it  was a dangerous place to be hitchhicking at that hour of the morning

Below is the false statement that the police and all the Western Australian media

have stated to the public for the last 20 years about the last sighting of Jane Rimmer at 4 minutes past midnight on Sunday June 9th 1996 

Sunday June 9, 1996: Childcare worker Jane Rimmer, 23, was last seen leaving Claremont’s Continental Hotel at 00.04am after a Saturday night out with friends.

Jane Rimmer was seen on video footage standing outside Club Bay View after she declined a lift home with friends, with whom she had been drinking. Her parents had expected their bubbly daughter for lunch that Sunday at their Wembley home.

The Western Australian Police Service and their Macro Task Force set up to investigate the Claremont Serial Abductions and Murders, after

However,  the true last sighting of Jane Rimmer was at around 12.30 am hitchhiking on Stirling Highway near Loch Street,Claremont,
which is going towards Perth from where Jane Rimmer had been at the Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace

The corner of Loch Street and Stirling Highway from the

Continental Hotel in Bay View Terrace is only about 10 to 15 minutes walk.

The Uni Students   were driving back to near the Nedlands Uni after attending a 21st birday party at the Claremont Yatch Club,
which is near the bottom of Bay View Terrace, Claremont.
They would have drived up Bay View Terrace andf turned right on the Stirling Highway,
towards Nedlands where  they lived near the university of Western Australia

So Jane Rimmer was hitchhiking towards Nedlands/Perth on the left side of the road if one was driving to Perth


 

Above photos of Jane Rimmer and a Mystery Man talking to Jane Rimmer, taken from the video footage released by the Macro Taskforce around 12 years after this video was recorded by the Continental Hotel Security camera at around 12.04 am on the Sunday the 9th of June, 1996 ...
The release of this edited video footage  and all media hype around trying to now ask the general public to help identify this mystery man (MM) some 12 years later, as being the alleged key to solving the abduction and murder of Jane Rimmer on Sunday morning, the 9th of June, 1996 ....with none of the main stream media or the police even mentioning the later sighting of Jane Rimmer at around 12.30 am hitchhicking  along Stirling Highway< Claremont, heading toward the city of Perth, in the complete opposite direction of Mosman Park, where the main stream media and the police try to imply all three girls were attempting to head to when they disappeared, or Wembley, where Jane Rimmer had a flat and where her parents lived as well ....

 

Mark Dixie has left a world-wide trail of shattered lives - and several possible murder victims.

In Britain, he was responsible for a series of violent sex attacks on women.

In Spain, he was suspected of battering and molesting three women within minutes.

And while he was working as a chef in Perth, Western Australia, there were three unsolved killings of attractive young women.

Model 'murdered by knifeman in search of sex'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577795/Model-murdered-by-knifeman-in-search-of-sex.html

By Caroline Gammell

12:01AM GMT 06 Feb 2008

A girl who dreamed of being a top model was murdered in her driveway by a knifeman determined to commit a violent sex act, a court has heard.

Sally Anne Bowman, 18, whose ambition was to appear on the front page of Vogue, was stabbed, bitten and sexually assaulted before and after she died.

The attack by 37-year-old chef Mark Dixie was so brutal that the blade of his knife passed through his victim's neck and abdomen, the Old Bailey was told.

Dixie admitted having sex with Miss Bowman after she had died while he was high on drink and drugs. But the convicted sex offender claimed he stumbled across her body and that she had been murdered by someone else.

Brian Altman, prosecuting, said of Dixie's defence: "The idea that in one and the same place there was not only a homicidal maniac who motivelessly stabbed a beautiful young woman to death but also a sex offender is a ludicrous claim borne out of desperation," he said.

"All you have to do is look at the state in which Sally Anne had been left after she was murdered to realise that, no matter how intoxicated the defendant claims to have been, having sexual intercourse with Sally Anne in that state and in those circumstances is simply beyond the pale as to be pure fiction."

Judge Gerald Gordon told the jury of seven women and five men that Dixie's admission that he had sex with the teenager might be regarded with revulsion but their responsibility was to decide if he had killed her.

On the first day of an expected four-week trial, the jury was given graphic details of the murder.

Miss Bowman's parents and two of her sisters were in court. One sister walked out as details and photographs of her sister's injuries were produced.

Mr Altman said that Dixie had armed himself with a knife "to commit a violent sex act", regardless of the identity of his victim.

Miss Bowman had celebrated her 18th birthday two weeks before she was attacked.

"Sally Anne Bowman's murder was motivated by sex," Mr Altman said. "He clearly murdered her for his own sexual gratification. There is no other way of describing it, other than to say that Sally Anne had been savagely and brutally killed."

Miss Bowman's naked body was discovered by a neighbour in Blenheim Crescent, Croydon, south London, on Sept 25, 2005. She had been dropped off by her boyfriend, Lewis Sproston, at about 4am after a night out in Croydon with her sister, Nicole.

As she walked to her front door she was attacked and although her screams were heard by several neighbours no one saw the killing.

A post mortem examination revealed that she had been stabbed seven times, bitten four times and suffered cuts to her arms and hands as she tried to fight off her attacker. She had been seriously sexually assaulted.

Mr Altman said the defendant's DNA was found on her body, his bloody fingerprint on her shoe and his bite marks on her face and body.

London-born Dixie, dressed in a black suit and blue tie, listened impassively, occasionally taking notes. The jury was told that he had spent several years in Australia in the 1990s before returning to Croydon in 2003.

Known as a "recreational drug user" with significant mood swings, the court heard that he had had several failed relationships, which produced three children.

Mr Altman said Dixie had turned 35 the night before Miss Bowman was murdered and had gone for a prolonged drinking session and taken two lines of cocaine with friends.

He was depressed about the breakdown of his latest relationship with his girlfriend, Stacey Nivet, with whom he had a son.

On the night of the murder, he stayed with a friend in Avondale Road, two streets from Blenheim Crescent, and was seen slumped on the sofa at 2.30am and then again at 10.30am, several hours after Miss Bowman's body was found.

Dixie was arrested in June 2006, at a pub in Horley, Surrey, where he worked as a chef. DNA swabs linked him to the crime scene, the jury heard.

Mr Altman said that police found a video dated March 2006, in which Dixie recorded himself committing a sex act in front of a newspaper bearing Miss Bowman's image.

He told the jury: "The defendant was reliving not just the sexual acts and other indignities he had performed on Sally Anne's body that night in September 2005 but he was also reliving killing her."

By Caroline Gammell

12:01AM GMT 06 Feb 2008

A girl who dreamed of being a top model was murdered in her driveway by a knifeman determined to commit a violent sex act, a court has heard.

Sally Anne Bowman, 18, whose ambition was to appear on the front page of Vogue, was stabbed, bitten and sexually assaulted before and after she died.

The attack by 37-year-old chef Mark Dixie was so brutal that the blade of his knife passed through his victim's neck and abdomen, the Old Bailey was told.

Dixie admitted having sex with Miss Bowman after she had died while he was high on drink and drugs. But the convicted sex offender claimed he stumbled across her body and that she had been murdered by someone else.

Brian Altman, prosecuting, said of Dixie's defence: "The idea that in one and the same place there was not only a homicidal maniac who motivelessly stabbed a beautiful young woman to death but also a sex offender is a ludicrous claim borne out of desperation," he said.

"All you have to do is look at the state in which Sally Anne had been left after she was murdered to realise that, no matter how intoxicated the defendant claims to have been, having sexual intercourse with Sally Anne in that state and in those circumstances is simply beyond the pale as to be pure fiction."

Judge Gerald Gordon told the jury of seven women and five men that Dixie's admission that he had sex with the teenager might be regarded with revulsion but their responsibility was to decide if he had killed her.

On the first day of an expected four-week trial, the jury was given graphic details of the murder.

Miss Bowman's parents and two of her sisters were in court. One sister walked out as details and photographs of her sister's injuries were produced.

Mr Altman said that Dixie had armed himself with a knife "to commit a violent sex act", regardless of the identity of his victim.

Miss Bowman had celebrated her 18th birthday two weeks before she was attacked.

"Sally Anne Bowman's murder was motivated by sex," Mr Altman said. "He clearly murdered her for his own sexual gratification. There is no other way of describing it, other than to say that Sally Anne had been savagely and brutally killed."

Miss Bowman's naked body was discovered by a neighbour in Blenheim Crescent, Croydon, south London, on Sept 25, 2005. She had been dropped off by her boyfriend, Lewis Sproston, at about 4am after a night out in Croydon with her sister, Nicole.

As she walked to her front door she was attacked and although her screams were heard by several neighbours no one saw the killing.

A post mortem examination revealed that she had been stabbed seven times, bitten four times and suffered cuts to her arms and hands as she tried to fight off her attacker. She had been seriously sexually assaulted.

Mr Altman said the defendant's DNA was found on her body, his bloody fingerprint on her shoe and his bite marks on her face and body.

London-born Dixie, dressed in a black suit and blue tie, listened impassively, occasionally taking notes. The jury was told that he had spent several years in Australia in the 1990s before returning to Croydon in 2003.

Known as a "recreational drug user" with significant mood swings, the court heard that he had had several failed relationships, which produced three children.

Mr Altman said Dixie had turned 35 the night before Miss Bowman was murdered and had gone for a prolonged drinking session and taken two lines of cocaine with friends.

He was depressed about the breakdown of his latest relationship with his girlfriend, Stacey Nivet, with whom he had a son.

On the night of the murder, he stayed with a friend in Avondale Road, two streets from Blenheim Crescent, and was seen slumped on the sofa at 2.30am and then again at 10.30am, several hours after Miss Bowman's body was found.

Dixie was arrested in June 2006, at a pub in Horley, Surrey, where he worked as a chef. DNA swabs linked him to the crime scene, the jury heard.

Mr Altman said that police found a video dated March 2006, in which Dixie recorded himself committing a sex act in front of a newspaper bearing Miss Bowman's image.

He told the jury: "The defendant was reliving not just the sexual acts and other indignities he had performed on Sally Anne's body that night in September 2005 but he was also reliving killing her."

The trial continues.

Former Australian Navy mechanic Richard Dorrough confesses to three murders before death
 KATE CAMPBELL, PerthNow - October 10, 2015

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/former-australian-navy-mechanic-richard-dorrough-confesses-to-three-murders-before-death/news-story/5db2ff7d9fb88ad450c7711d90050452

Former Australian Navy mechanic Richard Dorrough confesses to three murders before death  KATE CAMPBELL, PerthNow - October 10, 2015
THE former head of the WA Police homicide squad which investigated a navy sailor – now linked to three killings – has admitted his “strong suspicions”.

Former detective Paul Ferguson, whose team investigated the disappearance of a Broome woman 20 years ago, said there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Richard Edward Dorrough. Explosive allegations have now emerged that Dorrough, 37, confessed in a suicide note to killing three unnamed people, believed to be 21-year-old Broome woman Sara-Lee Davey, an unknown victim, and Sydney prostitute Rachael Campbell, 29 – the murder case Dorrough stood trial over but was acquitted.

Dorrough, originally from Queensland, killed himself at Belmont’s Lone Ranges Shooting Gallery in August last year. Ms Davey disappeared on January 14, 1997 after it’s believed she met Dorrough, a navy mechanic on shore leave from the HMAS Geelong, at a Broome night spot. Mr Ferguson yesterday stood by his homicide squad’s “thorough” investigation. State Crime Assistant Commissioner Michelle Fyfe said the investigation was “in line with policy and practice for 1997” and was directed by four witness statements from people known to Ms Davey and her family claiming they saw her after January 14.

Mr Ferguson sent two detectives to Darwin to interview Dorrough a few months later, but couldn’t strengthen their case against him.

“We were relatively confident that he was the killer, but you don’t convict people on gut feelings, you convict them on evidence,” he said.

“In that particular case, there was no body, there was no admissions and you had not strangers, but members of (Ms Davey’s) family saying they’d seen her after the time of the incident. “I was satisfied with the calibre of the investigation and I’d be more than satisfied to go before the coroner and answer any questions relating to what was done and why it was done at that particular point in time.” A coronial inquest into Ms Davey’s disappearance will be held in Broome in April next year. WA Police have reviewed all cold cases and continue to work with other jurisdictions cross-matching Dorrough’s known whereabouts with unsolved crime files. “We are unable to find any link with any unsolved serious crimes that we’re aware of,” Ms Fyfe said, adding any connection with the Claremont serial killer case had been ruled out as Dorrough was not living in Perth at the time. “There are members of the public who knew Mr Dorrough, who associated with him or who may very well recognise him. They may hold the key to us solving an unsolved crime.” Dorrough’s criminal history includes being charged with attempted murder after he deliberately ran down a pedestrian in Queensland in 2000. He was convicted of a lesser charge and sentenced to five years, serving just a year. NSW Police yesterday said its unsolved homicide team would “continue to review new evidentiary information”

Disappearance in 1997 of 21-year-old Kimberley woman Sara-Lee Davey from Broome.

Another murder allegedly mentioned in the suicide note was of Sara-Lee Davey - who has been on the national missing persons list since she vanished in 1997.

The former navy mechanic was also a suspect in the 1997 disappearance of 21-year-old Kimberley woman Sara-Lee Davey from Broome.

 Dorrough was questioned over her disappearance at the time.

Sara lee Davey was last seen: Tuesday, 14 January 1997 Year of birth: 1973 Height: 175cm Build: Slim Eyes: Brown Hair: Black Complexion:Olive Gender: Female Distinguishing Feature: Circumstances Sara was last seen driving a four wheel drive type vehicle in Saville Street, Broome at 5.00 pm on Tuesday January 14, 1997. This is the last known location that she visited in Broome prior to her disappearance. Despite extensive inquiries by police and family her whereabouts are not known

He Who Waits  ABC Program Transcript: Monday, 9^th February, 2004

http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2003/s1042100.htm#

CAROLINE JONES: Hello, I'm Caroline Jones. Tonight's story takes us inside Australia's longest-running and most expensive murder investigation. Eight years ago, three young women went missing from the wealthy Perth suburb of Claremont. Two of the girls were found murdered. The body of the third has never been discovered. Now some are suggesting that the subsequent disappearance of other young women from different areas of Perth could possibly be linked, an idea strongly rejected by the Claremont investigators. What's not in dispute is that the heartache and controversy surrounding the Claremont killings has not faded with time. Now pressure is building for a fresh approach.

ROBIN NAPPER – FORENSIC SCIENCE UNIT: People have to realise that serial killers don't walk around with horns sticking out of their head. They look like normal people. They look like your neighbour. But by night, that's when the really evil side comes out and they go off hunting and prowling for victims. And they simply just can't stop. They have to keep on and on. It's like food and water, to us.

So, there is this compulsion to kill and to keep on killing and to get better and better each time that they do it. They can't take victims unless they can actually get close to victims and be friendly and actually lure them into cars or take them away. So, the persona they will present to the world is one of a very friendly - maybe a little bit offbeat, maybe a little bit strange, but nevertheless a non-dangerous person.

BRET CHRISTIAN – EDITOR, POST NEWSPAPERS: Claremont was never looked on as a dangerous place. Claremont's a well-heeled area which has something of an entertainment centre. There's a nightclub and a hotel there. In the mid-1990s, three girls in a fairly short space of time went missing after visiting those nightspots.

Well, it totally traumatised our backyard. The girls had been there probably as kids shopping with their mothers, and then at night they would go there, you know, for fun, to have a few drinks, meet some friends, and suddenly it became a hellhole, somewhere where people disappeared from.

DON SPIERS: Sarah had been at Club Bayview in Claremont with friends of hers. When she left, her friends weren't ready to go, so she left early to make a phone call for a taxi. When the taxi-driver arrived she was not there. It was probably only three minutes after the appointment. Well, initially you like to presume that there's something minor wrong and that, you know, everything will work out - that maybe she's gone with friends somewhere and hasn't been able to return. But we knew that there was something serious wrong because Sarah just simply would not fail to communicate with us under any circumstances. You know, our love was so strong that she wouldn't do that to us, you know?

CAPTION: Sarah Spiers disappeared about 2am on 27th January 1996. She has never been found.

DON SPIEARS: People ask me, "How do you cope?" And you don't "cope" - you learn to preoccupy yourself. I mean, I keep myself so busy that my mind's occupied all the time. I only have to have two or three hours off and I start to, you know, become a bit depressed. My day starts at 5:00 in the morning and I very rarely knock off before 8:00 in the evening. I admit now - I've always sort of probably been accepted as a fairly...fairly strong and rugged sort of a character, but, um, you know, I confess I cried myself to sleep for over 12 months in the initial... in the initial journey. And, you know, I'm not ashamed. Not ashamed of that at all.

CAPTION: On 9th June 1996, four months after Sarah Spiers vanished, Jane Rimmer disappeared in similar circumstances. Believing there was a connection, the next day police set up the MACRO Task Force.

TREVOR RIMMER: The police came round and they told me that, um... .that they'd found Jane's body. And, um... .that was the... the end of the night. That just... Everything broke down. That was just so hard. Because at that time, I guess, we were still hoping against hope, in our hearts... .that she was still alive...even though we knew in our heads that the odds were very much against it.

JENNY RIMMER: You wonder when it happens, "Why was it my daughter that night?" I mean, which is not a very nice thing to say, but you naturally think that. And I think she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. You know, it could've been anyone. I just couldn't believe it.

CAPTION: Two months later, Jane Rimmer’s body was found.

POLICE RE-CREATION: On 14 March, just over a week ago, was a night just like this. Ciara Glennon left the hotel that's just behind me and hasn't been seen since. She's the third young woman that this has occurred to in 14 months in this area.

DENIS GLENNON – PRESS CONFERENCE: Only now do I even begin to understand, um, the terrible trauma that the parents of Jane and Sarah went through, and...and the degree of empathy that I have with them now is just enormous. No parent who loves their child, even a child of 28 like Ciara was, can even begin to comprehend the devastating thing that this is in any family.

CAPTION: Nine months later, in march 1997, a third girl, Ciara Glennon went missing from Claremont.

NEWS REPORT: We want to move quickly to see if we can get information while it is fresh in people's minds. 

NEWS GRAB: We certainly have fears that there is a serial killer at loose in Perth. 

NEWS REPORTER: Police are collecting body specimens from potential suspects. NEWS GRAB: It wasn't, like, a prostitute or anything - just a normal family girl. It's really quite terrifying.

DET. SGT PAUL COOMBES – MACRO TASK LEADER: The State of Western Australia, I believe, was in a state of shock upon the disappearance of Ciara Glennon. For three people to disappear from relatively safe streets without a trace was very disturbing.

The investigation has continued full-time for over seven years, and that in itself is very unique. It is the biggest ever in this State and in the history of WA policing, and possibly the largest investigation ever conducted in Australia.

DAVID CAPORN – HEAD MACRO TASK FORCE: I think one of the very tangible ways that this crime could be solved is in the tracing of the particularly significant items of jewellery that are missing in relation to this case.

DET. SGT LEE: What I'm showing you now is replicas of the clothing worn by all of the girls on the night of their disappearance, firstly starting with Sarah's clothing. And in particular we'd like to locate a key ring, a sunflower key ring. Um, most notable with Jane's clothing and property is the small bag. And with Ciara's clothing, the most notable is the small brooch.

DAVID CAPRON: Those are the sort of pieces of information that could assist the task force to resolve this matter.

NEWS REPORTER: Amid growing fears the killer would strike again soon, a breakthrough - MACRO Task Force detectives swooping on a suspect at 3 o'clock Sunday morning as he prowled around Claremont streets in his car.

BRET CHRISTIAN: There is a man that the police have been watching from very early on in the investigation, and he appears to be a prime suspect. Vast amounts of resources have gone into watching his every movement, to following him, to surveilling him in all sorts of different ways.

JENNY RIMMER: Well, the only thing I can say is that if he had nothing to do with it, I feel really sorry for him. If they're so confident, I can't understand why he hasn't been charged. There's obviously something lacking after, like, seven years. They still can't put their finger on it, so it's very hard to comprehend.

BRET CHRISTIAN: I think our community's been lulled into a false sense of security by the - sort of the sly nod and the wink that, "Look, we really know who's done this. We've been watching him. "And since we've been watching him there's been no other murders." That's actually wrong. There HAVE been other murders - just not any more in Claremont.

DAVID CAPORN: We can't eliminate the possibility that there is another crime that's been committed that's linked to the Claremont crime, but there is no indication of any significance that we have had a linked one since Ciara Glennon's disappearance and, ultimately, her murder. Certainly, there have been times when the media have led the community to believe that we're only interested in one person. I can assure you that we've looked far and wide, and that as every year goes by, several people are looked at very closely.

JENNY RIMMER: I don't think it'll be solved. I think too much time has gone past. They should have caught the person by now. We know there are other girls that have gone missing, and... .I mean, I haven't heard much about a lot of those other girls.

ROBIN NAPPER: You cannot divorce the three missing girls from Claremont with all the other missing people, because it's unsolved. He's still out there.

CAPTION: At 5pm on November 8 2000, Sarah McMahon left her workplace in Claremont. She said she was going to meet a friend. She vanished without a trace. Ten days later her car was found at the Swan District Hospital.

TRISH MCMAHON: The police said no, it had nothing to do with the Claremont girls missing. We just didn't have to even think about that. It was nothing to do with that at all. But they said because of the circumstances of Sarah's disappearance, that it was highly likely that Sarah had been murdered or that she was dead. I took it the only way I could - I don't believe it. I want facts.

I don't want to have to deal with what the police THINK. I want to be able to have tangible facts. People say, "Well, you know, it's been three years, you know. "You have to get on with your life." How can we? How can we? There are so many unanswered questions.

DON SPIERS: You know, people that perpetrate these sort of activities have no...no grasp of the torment and pain that they put families through. If they could just have a bit of an insight as to what they've done to numerous people... It's not just the families - like, the brothers, sisters and parents - but there's the uncles, the cousins, the aunties, the grandparents.

JENNY RIMMER: But it's also impacted on a lot of our friends and our relations. 
We pour three glasses of champagne and an extra one for Janie, and we drink ours and enjoy it, and then we pour hers on the plaque. My girlfriends and I do that quite often, actually, on her birthday - go down there with the Blush champagne, which was her favourite. 
We...that makes you feel really good. I think, anyway. Mmm.

DON SPIERS: Our situation's a little bit different to the Glennons' and the Rimmers', because their two girls have been found. We still haven't had either of the questions answered as to where Sarah is and what's actually happened to her. Another big problem that we've had has been clairvoyants. They have been a huge torment to myself and my family in giving cryptic clues as to where Sarah might be. I remember one night early days I was down Salter Point, you know, thrashing around the swampy areas down there at 11 o'clock at night. Um...probably walking around bawling my eyes out and getting nowhere. I mean, a lot of times I've known I shouldn't have listened, but I've always thought that maybe they're using that excuse of being a clairvoyant to give me some honest facts.

TRISH MCMAHON: I've been to Melbourne, put up posters in Melbourne. I've been to Sydney, going out with the soup van. My son's travelled up the coast putting up posters. We've done as much as we can. I don't know what else to do... ..you know? I haven't got the resources. I just haven't got the resources. I...I want to be out there now.

BRET CHRISTIAN: There are about 16 murders or disappearances of women since the late 1980s that remain unsolved in Perth. That's something that hasn't really registered in the public mind - that the 16 disappearances, or a large proportion of those, could be the work of one person. I think MACRO should live up to its name and go and look at the really big picture again and try and connect the dots.

ROBIN NAPPER: The UK police service learnt a very painful lesson in the 1970s with the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe. He was found almost by accident. Because of information overload, they'd been chasing other leads down the wrong path and they'd missed him, and lives could have been saved. As a result of that, one of the recommendations was the creation of the National Crime Faculty, who would do independent case reviews, so in the future when complex murder investigations occurred, an independent team would come in and look at the whole case independently to get another perspective on the investigation.

An independent case review will bring in experts from all the different fields - geographic profilers, forensic profilers, different pathologists, different investigators. And the host force gives them the material, then they literally stand back and leave them to it to do the whole review. This Claremont case has now remained unsolved for eight years, and in my view it's almost crying out for a full, comprehensive case review where we get experts from round the world, we look at world's best practice, and we adopt it to this case to try and solve it once and for all.

DAVID CAPORN: I don't know of any other investigation that has been audited and reviewed as much as the MACRO investigation. We have employed people in this State and also people in other parts of Australia with significant homicide investigation background, particularly in relation to serial crime, to conduct comprehensive reviews of the inquiry. Other things that we've done is to employ investigators within this State to review particular streams of evidence, so rather than give them the whole investigation review, we'll give them bite-sized pieces. We've also sent our case file to numerous experts throughout the world - United Kingdom, United States - allowing those people full access to our information to get opinions, views.

ROBIN NAPPER: It's how you look at the word "review". A complex investigation is like a huge jigsaw puzzle, and you cannot solve that by sending one piece of the jigsaw puzzle off to an expert overseas and asking him to tell you what the picture is. The whole point of an independent review is, you get everyone together at the same time and at the same place with the same material. That's the synergy that's solved some of the most complex murders since the Yorkshire Ripper case.

COMMANDER ANDY BAKER – HEAD HOMICIDE: Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees. You're so close to it, you may have tunnel vision. So, you need someone to come in and say, "Step back." We have found it's been difficult for other offices, whether in the UK or across the world, to accept others coming in, but the parameters are that this is a search for truth every single time. It may hurt someone, but it's got to be a search for the truth, 'cause the truth will come out.

ROBIN NAPPER: There is so much help in there, like the National Crime Faculty in the UK, who are experts and skilled in these case reviews, who, without a doubt, would come and help in this case review.

DAVE BARCLAY: We're certainly supporting MACRO here at National Crime Faculty, but with some specific things that we have that other people don't, like the injuries database. It would be fair to say that we have not made an effective contribution to MACRO. I've had a go at it. A colleague of mine who's a specialist advisor has had a go too. We just don't have enough information at this distance.

PAUL COOMBES – MACRO TASK FORCE: I believe that the investigation team itself are still very well positioned to be able to resolve the matters. We're very confident in the advances in forensic technology, and that is one of the reasons why we have instigated a forensic review to go back to the beginning and look at what we do hold on this case. We believe that that may, with what we hold, open the case up to enable us to get to a stage where we can prosecute.

DAVE BARCLAY – NATIONAL CRIME FACULTY: Most opportunities arise from lack of thought, not lack of technology. When you look at it, it isn't DNA that solves these crimes. It's basic reassessment of the crime scene by somebody else. Helps a lot.

COMMANDER ANDY BAKER: I think if the Claremont case had been investigated in the UK, I'm not confident that it would've been detected in the UK, either. Now, from what we've seen of what's been done, it's been pretty good and pretty extensive. The thing that HASN'T been done, I think, is this giant workshop where we all get together.

The review system certainly has brought success around locking up the guilty. And more importantly, there's families that have had unanswered questions. At least we've answered some of those questions, and I've actually seen some families and communities, a weight removed from them. And as time goes on, they're a bit more at peace with what happened to their loved one.

DON SPIERS: The police that have been involved with us have been absolutely outstanding in the way that they've conducted themselves and gone out of their way to assist us. You know, even the guys that are still on the case today are always right behind us. I mean, there's no question that doesn't get answered. If I've got a problem, I tell them what it is and they make sure that I've got an answer. They're...they've been remarkable.

PAUL COOMBES: On a personal level, I suppose it is with you the whole time. I've got to know Don, in particular, fairly well and I do feel very close to him. At times it is very frustrating for me not being able to...talk to Don about where Sarah is. And we've spoken a number of times about that day, should and when we do locate Sarah - you know, how we would deal with it.

BRET CHRISTIAN: I think it's more like the Eric Cooke saga than people believe, and I think we'll find out one day that it very closely approximates that dreadful period of serial killings through the same residential area that happened in the 1960s. The women who were killed and injured by Eric Cooke - at the time that they happened, the police made public statements saying, "It's not the work of the same person." Later on, it was discovered that he was using all sorts of different methods of locating and murdering the women. He was running them down with cars, he was stabbing them, he was attacking them with axes and he was shooting people. So, there seems to be a Hollywood myth that serial killers use only one method, they operate in only one area, and that stamps them as that particular killer.

DAVID CAPORN: We can only do everything within our power to complete the investigation and hopefully have a successful resolution. It's not crystal ball stuff. It's not about a 1-hour television program where the crime occurs, you put your resources in and at the end of the show it's solved - it's just not as simple as that. But it's a matter of history that all over the world there will be crimes that are not resolved.

JENNY RIMMER: I don't feel revenge. I don't think that does any good. But I'd just like to know...you know, maybe how it all happened and who it was and...save some other poor young girl from going through the same thing.

DON SPIERS: There's probably not an hour of any day that passes that I don't think of Sarah. Until the day that she is found, there'll never be closure. No matter what the circumstances, I would like to have someone come forward. I don't want clairvoyants, but if there's someone out there that knows where our Sarah is, for them to come forward and tell me...somehow.

CAPTION: W.A. Police say there have been 10 independent reviews of ‘MACRO’, including one in the UK and four in the USA. Later this year after the current forensic review, police will ask overseas experts to conduct another comprehensive review.

Crime Stoppers: 1800 333 000

Former Macro Take Force Boss Paul Ferguson was in about 1997 removed by the the then Western Australian Police Commissioner Robert Falconer, who was the former head of the well known to be corrupt Victorian Drug Squad, from being the Macro Take Force Boss and replaced by Inspector David Caporn, who was later made Assistant Commissioner, until David Caporn had to resign from the Western Australian Police Force be cause of a ruling of the High Court of Australia that set aside the murder conviction of Andrew Mallard, because the High Court stated that the evidence that Inspector David Caporn
 put together to that was the basis of Andrew Mallard's murder conviction was false and manufactured evidence
                                        
   Former Assistant Commissioner,  David Caporn, who had been named in Western Australian Parliament as being corrupt. and serious questions have been asked as to whether  former Assistant Commissioner,  David Caporn was seriously trying to catch and arrest the real Claremont Serial Killer or Killers.... 
......one would expect there to be more than one person involved in the Claremont Serial Killings....

'Don't worry about it, we've got our man': Is this the moment police let the Claremont Killer

walk free because they were too focused on tying another man to the crime?

• The Claremont Killer serial murders is a notorious Australian cold case
• Three women were abducted in 1996 and 1997 from the Perth suburb
• The cases were all strikingly similar, yet the killer has never been found
• A former detective speaks out about a potential suspect who walked
• Says investigators were fixed on one man, rejected all other possibilities
• Con Bayens recalls a chilling incident which set off alarm bells
• Case is Australia's longest running and most expensive investigation 

By Lucy Thackray for Daily Mail Australia

Published: 17:41, 31 May 2015

The Claremont killer, who abducted and murdered three young blonde women, was never captured and could still be walking the streets almost 20 years on – and it's suggested police may have let the culprit go.

Taskforce Macro have been investigaing the Perth serial murders in what has become Australia's longest running and most expensive active man hunt

The FBI, Nassar and a former Mossad agent have been called on to assist - yet the person or people responsible remain at large.

The bodies of Jane Rimmer, 23, and Ciara Glennon, 27, were found dumped in bushland in 1996 and 1997 respectively.

Scroll down for video 

Despite ongoing investigation Taskforce Macro the mass murderer who killed three women in affluent Perth suburb Claremont hasn't been found

However, the body of the first victim, 18-year-old Sarah Spiers is yet to be found after she disappeared from a pub in the affluent Perth suburb of Claremont on Australia Day in 1996.

Police officers have now spoken out to allege the investigations were bungled, with potential suspects allowed to walk and key pieces of evidence disregarded.

A terrifying encounter with a sinister man in a car equipped with 'abduction tools' has been pinpointed as a potential moment the police allowed a prime suspect to walk away without inquiry, as they were too focused on a man they believed to be the killer.

'It seems to me the Macro taskforce was a situation where the cops really mucked up and now we've got a cover up. And that's the saddest part, that they've never said 'we made a mistake', said former West Australian officer Con Bayens.

The former head of WA's prostitution taskforce says police looking for the Claremont serial killer in the 1990s and 2000s were dismissive of a suspect because they were too focused on trying to tie another man to the crime.

In 2008 the man, public servant Lance Williams, was finally dismissed as a suspect after years of round-the-clock surveillance.

Mr Bayens fears investigators failed to adequately probe potential suspects he encountered while running his taskforce between July 2000 and August 2002.

One particularly harrowing night has 'haunted' him 'for years' and Mr Bayens is adamant the disturbing man he found was never properly investigated by the taskforce.

Mr Bayens recalls the chilling night he pulled over a man during an undercover operation in Highgate in 2002 - 11 kilometres away from Claremont.

The boot was lined with blue plastic and there was a pair of pliers and masking tape – disturbing equipment which he believed appeared to be for an abduction.

The driver was questioned but Mr Bayens does not know why he was cleared in inquiries by officers on Task Force Macro, which was set up to investigate the killings.

Mr Bayens said the head investigator into the killings had rejected his offer to pass on information from the undercover operation, which was uncovering people every night 'and every one of them had the potential to be the Claremont serial killer.'

However, his offer was rejected by the chief investigator, to his astonishment.

'He said, 'Don't worry about it, Con, we've got our man.' And those words will stick with me forever,' he said.

'That just hit about 10 on my weird s***-o-meter.'

WA Police insist they looked into the sinister man Mr Bayens encountered, but the former constable insists the enquiry never took place.

12 years after her disappearance, CCTV footage of Jane Rimmer outside Claremont's Continental Hotel was finally released. She ran into a man she seemed to recgonise just minutes before she disappeared

'What happened? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'd love to see the proof,' he said.

Police still believe they will find the killer, who abducted and murdered the women after they partied at nightspots in the affluent suburb of Claremont.

The three disappearances were extremely similar – as former Ferguson puts it 'they each got into the wrong car and it cost them their lives.'

Investigators believe the women trusted the drivers of the vehicles so focussed their attention on taxi drivers –taking DNA samples from thousands of registered cab drivers in the city.

The three disappearances were extremely similar – as former Ferguson puts it 'they each got into the wrong car and it cost them their lives' (the taskforce pictured in the 1990s)

The women disappeared in 1996 and 1997 in the ritzy western Perth suburb, Claremont in an area that was a hub of activity.

Sarah Spiers was just 18 years old when she became the first victim in the Claremont serial murders.

She left a nightclub in Claremont, Club Bayview, on Australia Day 1996 and called for a cab from a payphone at 2.06. By the time the taxi arrived at 2.14am, she had disappeared. Her body has never been found.

On June 6 of that year childcare worker Jane Rimmer, 23, disappeared from the same Claremont pub – Club Bayview after declining a lift with friends.

Her body was found two months later August 3 in dense bushland south of Perth. She was found naked, partially decomposed and covered with leaves and twigs.

The third incident occurred early the following year on March 15, 1997. Ciara Glennon, a 27-year-old lawyer, disappeared from Claremont's Continental Hotel, just 200 metres from Club Bayview in the same party precinct.

She wandered out onto the Sterling Highway, potentially in search of a taxi. A witness told police they saw her talking to someone in a car. When the witness looked back a moment later, Ciara and the car were both gone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-517552/Revealed-Violent-past-Sally-Annes-killer--struck-before.html

Revealed: Violent past of Sally Anne's killer - and how he may have struck before

Last updated at 21:14 22 February 2008

Mark Dixie has left a world-wide trail of shattered lives - and several possible murder victims.

In Britain, he was responsible for a series of violent sex attacks on women.

In Spain, he was suspected of battering and molesting three women within minutes.

And while he was working as a chef in Perth, Western Australia, there were three unsolved killings of attractive young women.

Scroll down for more...

Police believe Mark Dixie may have committed other serious crimes in Australia

He was also involved in several incidents of violence or perverted behaviour. But he managed to avoid leaving any crucial DNA evidence and was deported back to Britain - to murder Sally Anne Bowman.
Sally Ann Bowman 

Sally Ann Bowman,  was brutally murdered by Mark Philip Dixie, who is also known as Shane Taylor, who a witness says was working in with powerful, corrupt and evil  police and  business people, who gave Mark Philip Dixie the Green Light to commit what ever crimes he wanted to.... as long as Mark Philip Dixie 
abducted and murdered certain selected innocent attractive females under orders  of these powerful, corrupt and evil  police and  business people .. A witness that the Western Australian Police, the Western Australian Attorney General the Hon. Michael Mischin MLC LLB (Hons), BJuris (Hons) , the Western Australian Premier, Colin Barnett, the Western Australian Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan, and the Western Australian Minister of Police, Liz Harvey,  are not interested in even talking to, or knowing what the witness can and will say ... says that these powerful, corrupt and evil  police and  business people in Western Australia used the handsome very good womaniser, Mark Philip Dixie, to lure the innocent victims from the well known Claremont Night stop to a his car, and also was given a undercover police badge as an extra tool to make the women fell more safe getting into his unmarked police car ...and form then hooded and tied up and take to a place where they were sexually used and the most horrific ways, then, when those involved had finished used their girl's bodies, they were then given to Mark Philip Dixie, who is also known as Shane Taylor, to be murdered in the most gruesome way...  as Mark Philip Dixie, who is also known as Shane Taylor ... sated at his trial of the murder of Sally Ann Bowman .... he like dot have sex with women after they are dead... as he said he did  with Sally Ann Bowman....

Mark Phillip Dixie was born in Balham, south London on September 24, 1970 to advertising manager Phillip Dixie and his wife Lesley. Eighteen months later the couple divorced and Dixie never saw his father again.

His mother remarried in 1980 and his stepfather Ronald McDonald regularly beat and abused him. Two years later, his mother dumped him on the doorstep of a children's home in Streatham and has never bothered to make contact since.

Dixie was taken into care and started his criminal career at 14 with a series of muggings in Plumstead. At 15 he was expelled from school for punching a teacher, and spent six weeks at a young offenders' unit as a punishment for vandalism.

At 16 he was referred by the children's home to a psychiatrist following concerns about his emotional problems and the effect of his heavy cannabis abuse on his mental state, which led to at least two indecent assaults on women.

At the home he met his first girlfriend, Sandra Beckhaus, and they moved in together to a flat in Plumstead where a Jehovah's Witness called one day. Dixie, then 17, punched her, fracturing her jaw, and grabbed her throat demanding sex. She managed to escape but said the attack by the 'monster' had ruined her life.

Dixie was jailed for six months for indecent assault and actual bodily harm in August 1988. Less than a year later he was given a community service order after exposing himself to two women.

In 1993 he went to Australia where he fathered two children with Sandra - neither of whom is now in contact with him. He overstayed his visa and faced deportation, so he disappeared and turned up with a new name.

When Dixie strolled into a cafe in Perth in January 1996, he introduced himself as Shane Turner, a top chef who had worked in restaurants around Europe and Australia. The owner, Anthony McMahon, hired him for £160 a week. Mr McMahon recalls: "He could be moody at times, but I put that down to him being a chef."

Dixie rented a flat a few miles away, near the coastal suburb of Claremont. Sarah Spiers, 18, went missing the same month that Dixie arrived at the cafe. Her body has never been found.

That June, Jane Rimmer, 23, was killed and her body was found in bushland two months later. Ciara Glennon, 27, was the last known victim and disappeared in March 1997. Her body was found north of Perth in bushland. All the women lived near Dixie.

That year Dixie was sacked after holding a knife to a waiter's throat. He got a new job at the Dunsborough Beach Lodge where he smoked huge amounts of cannabis in his quarters. Police suspect he loitered on the beachfront looking for victims and local papers at the time carried several reports of 'flashers'.

It later emerged that he broke into a flat yards from his home before stabbing and raping a Thai student, leaving her for dead.

Miraculously she survived to describe her ordeal, but Dixie managed to evade capture.

On January 1, 1999 a woman out running was horrified when a naked man jumped out of a car. When she screamed, he ran back to the car and drove off, but she gave police a full description of the vehicle.

They tracked Dixie down and he was deported on April 23, 1999. Crucially, British police were never told about his Australian offences. After his arrest for the Sally Anne Bowman murder, detectives from a Perth 'cold case' squad investigated Dixie. But without any DNA to link him to any of the cases, the inquiry had to be dropped.

Back in Britain, he was referred to Croydon mental health services by his GP after he complained of 'desperate thoughts' and said he feared he was going 'potty'.

He told doctors that he was suffering from insomnia, severe depression, mood swings, violent temper tantrums, anxiety attacks and fear of public places.

In one paranoid outburst, he punched a friend just because he approached him from the right.

But despite his deteriorating mental state, experts sent him off with anti-depressants and recommendations of counselling after Dixie convinced them that he would take up Tai Chi to soothe his troubled mind.

He never received any counselling because he failed to keep follow-up appointments and his case was closed by June 2002.

That month he began a relationship with 23-year-old Stacey Nivet and they moved to Spain where she became pregnant with a son.

On the Costa del Sol, police believe he robbed, battered and sexually assaulted three women in Fuengirola.

Returning to Britain in October 2003, Dixie and Miss Nivet moved into a flat on Blenheim Crescent, Croydon, ten doors from where he would attack Sally Anne. There is, however, no suggestion that Dixie ever met the would-be model.

The couple then moved to East Grinstead in East Sussex. After three stormy years together, their relationship broke down under the strain of Dixie's heavy cocaine habit, which took up most of his wages.

Miss Nivet, who said Dixie would often get rough and bite her, threw him out of their two-bedroom flat on September 1, 2005, just over three weeks before Sally Anne's death.

Dixie responded by leaving on a coach bound for Amsterdam to 'fulfil a lifelong dream' where he took cannabis, Ecstasy and cocaine while visiting prostitutes. He returned when he ran out of cash and went to stay with his cousin Anthony Down in Coulsdon, near Croydon.

On the night of Sally Anne's murder, Dixie tried to persuade Miss Nivet to take him back and celebrate his 35th birthday with him. But she refused. Furious, he went on a bender with friends consuming lager, wine, spirits, cocaine and cannabis.

By the time he arrived at the home of a friend where he planned to stay the night, he was desperate for sex, so he picked up a knife and walked into the night.

At 3.30am on September 25, less than an hour before Sally Anne died and four streets from the murder scene, a 36-year-old mother-of-three had her mobile phone stolen and was assaulted by a man police are convinced was Dixie.

Disturbed by a taxi, he ran off with her mobile phone and headed for his old stamping ground of Blenheim Crescent where, at 4.15am, he saw Sally Anne being dropped off by her boyfriend Lewis Sproston. Lying in wait behind a skip, he attacked the teenager yards from the safety of her front door.

He repeatedly bit her and knifed her seven times before sexually assaulting her as she lay dying.

Finally, he removed her underwear and handbag as souvenirs - just as he had during the attacks in Spain and Australia.

He calmly returned to a friend's flat where he had been staying, smoked a spliff and dozed off.

Six months to the day after the murder, he celebrated by filming himself committing a sex act in front of a newspaper bearing Sally Anne's image.

Dixie embarked on a new relationship with Kate McConaghie, a fellow-chef at the pub where he worked in Horley, Surrey. The 20-year-old blonde describes him as 'moody' but 'nice looking' and says he initially 'treated me like a princess'.

But before long he was viciously biting her during sex.

Miss McConaghie said: "When I learned he had been arrested for Sally Anne's murder and remembered how she had been bitten during the attack it sent a chill of fear and revulsion through me."

The Bowman murder team, meanwhile, were searching for Sally Anne's killer.

Although he had left a DNA sample at the scene, no match could be found on the national database as Dixie's previous convictions dated back before samples were routinely taken from suspects.

Then, last June, Dixie got drunk and became involved in a brawl in Horley. He burst into tears when Surrey Police arrested him and took a DNA sample. The killing spree was over.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-517552/Revealed-Violent-past-Sally-Annes-killer--struck-before.html#ixzz4VAviNZ9k 
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577796/Mark-Dixies-history-of-violence.html

Mark Dixie's history of violence

At the age of 16, he was charged with indecent assault after allegedly putting a knife to a woman’s throat and fondling her breasts. Although the case was withdrawn in court, it was the first of many brushes with the law.

By Caroline Gammell

12:01AM GMT 06 Feb 2008

Mark Dixie has a history of sexual violence dating back 20 years, the court heard.

In 1988, he was convicted of attacking a married mother-of-three after she knocked on the door of his flat in Plumstead, south-east London.

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was a Jehovah's Witness who had approached his then girlfriend several weeks before and the pair had struck up a relationship.

Mr Altman, prosecuting, said Dixie had punched the woman in the face before fumbling with his trousers and saying: "You're going to have to help me. I need it, I need it."

The barrister told the Old Bailey: "Understandably, the woman feared the defendant was intending to rape her."

After a struggle, he grabbed the woman by the neck, threatened to kill her and lifted her skirt with his knee.

She managed to escape and complained to the police. Dixie pleaded guilty to indecent assault and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Ten years later, he was suspected of carrying out a "savage and sexual assault" on a Thai student in Perth, Western Australia.

The woman, who also cannot be named, was attacked by a man who leapt through a window of her house, wearing a stocking over his face and armed with a knife.

He ordered her to remove her top before forcing her to the ground and stabbing her repeatedly.

The woman collapsed unconscious and could not remember if she had been raped.

Her assailant was never charged but a breakthrough in DNA evidence was made last year when semen found in her underwear matched the profile of Dixie.

Mr Altman said that although Dixie was never charged or faced trial over the attack, his link to the Australia case was relevant to the murder of Miss Bowman.

"If you are satisfied on the evidence that Dixie violently attacked in 1988 and then 10 years later assaulted another woman in circumstances of extreme violence, then there is evidence which will assist you in concluding not only that this defendant sexually assaulted Sally Anne but also that it was he, and no one else, who murdered her by stabbing her to death before he had intercourse with her," he said

Model 'murdered by knifeman in search of sex'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577795/Model-murdered-by-knifeman-in-search-of-sex.html

Neighbours heard Sally Anne Bowman screaming as she was attacked outside her home 

Model 'murdered by knifeman in search of sex'

Neighbours heard Sally Anne Bowman screaming as she was attacked outside her home 

By Caroline Gammell

12:01AM GMT 06 Feb 2008

A girl who dreamed of being a top model was murdered in her driveway by a knifeman determined to commit a violent sex act, a court has heard.

Sally Anne Bowman, 18, whose ambition was to appear on the front page of Vogue, was stabbed, bitten and sexually assaulted before and after she died.

The attack by 37-year-old chef Mark Dixie was so brutal that the blade of his knife passed through his victim's neck and abdomen, the Old Bailey was told.

Dixie admitted having sex with Miss Bowman after she had died while he was high on drink and drugs. But the convicted sex offender claimed he stumbled across her body and that she had been murdered by someone else.

Brian Altman, prosecuting, said of Dixie's defence: "The idea that in one and the same place there was not only a homicidal maniac who motivelessly stabbed a beautiful young woman to death but also a sex offender is a ludicrous claim borne out of desperation," he said.

"All you have to do is look at the state in which Sally Anne had been left after she was murdered to realise that, no matter how intoxicated the defendant claims to have been, having sexual intercourse with Sally Anne in that state and in those circumstances is simply beyond the pale as to be pure fiction."

Judge Gerald Gordon told the jury of seven women and five men that Dixie's admission that he had sex with the teenager might be regarded with revulsion but their responsibility was to decide if he had killed her.

On the first day of an expected four-week trial, the jury was given graphic details of the murder.

Miss Bowman's parents and two of her sisters were in court. One sister walked out as details and photographs of her sister's injuries were produced.

Mr Altman said that Dixie had armed himself with a knife "to commit a violent sex act", regardless of the identity of his victim.

Miss Bowman had celebrated her 18th birthday two weeks before she was attacked.

"Sally Anne Bowman's murder was motivated by sex," Mr Altman said. "He clearly murdered her for his own sexual gratification. There is no other way of describing it, other than to say that Sally Anne had been savagely and brutally killed."

Miss Bowman's naked body was discovered by a neighbour in Blenheim Crescent, Croydon, south London, on Sept 25, 2005. She had been dropped off by her boyfriend, Lewis Sproston, at about 4am after a night out in Croydon with her sister, Nicole.

As she walked to her front door she was attacked and although her screams were heard by several neighbours no one saw the killing.

A post mortem examination revealed that she had been stabbed seven times, bitten four times and suffered cuts to her arms and hands as she tried to fight off her attacker. She had been seriously sexually assaulted.

Mr Altman said the defendant's DNA was found on her body, his bloody fingerprint on her shoe and his bite marks on her face and body.

London-born Dixie, dressed in a black suit and blue tie, listened impassively, occasionally taking notes. The jury was told that he had spent several years in Australia in the 1990s before returning to Croydon in 2003.

Known as a "recreational drug user" with significant mood swings, the court heard that he had had several failed relationships, which produced three children.

Mr Altman said Dixie had turned 35 the night before Miss Bowman was murdered and had gone for a prolonged drinking session and taken two lines of cocaine with friends.

He was depressed about the breakdown of his latest relationship with his girlfriend, Stacey Nivet, with whom he had a son.

On the night of the murder, he stayed with a friend in Avondale Road, two streets from Blenheim Crescent, and was seen slumped on the sofa at 2.30am and then again at 10.30am, several hours after Miss Bowman's body was found.

Dixie was arrested in June 2006, at a pub in Horley, Surrey, where he worked as a chef. DNA swabs linked him to the crime scene, the jury heard.

Mr Altman said that police found a video dated March 2006, in which Dixie recorded himself committing a sex act in front of a newspaper bearing Miss Bowman's image.

He told the jury: "The defendant was reliving not just the sexual acts and other indignities he had performed on Sally Anne's body that night in September 2005 but he was also reliving killing her."

The trial continues.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1579461/Mark-Dixie-20-years-of-sexual-violence.html

Mark Dixie: 20 years of sexual violence

By Caroline Gammell

6:01PM BST 12 Apr 2008

Mark Dixie, who lived an itinerant life high on drink and drugs, had a history of sexual violence dating back two decades before he murdered Sally Anne Bowman on the night of his 35th birthday.

• Mark Dixie's police record
• Call for DNA database after Mark Dixie jailed
• Sally Anne: Opinionated aspiring model

At the age of 16, he was charged with indecent assault after allegedly putting a knife to a woman’s throat and fondling her breasts. Although the case was withdrawn in court, it was the first of many brushes with the law.

ust a year later, he attacked a Jehovah’s witness, threatening the married mother-of-three with her life and ending up in jail for six months. 

The trained chef, now 37, committed three other sexual offences in the UK, assaulted a police officer and was charged with theft on eight different occasions.

Related Articles

• Call for DNA database after Mark Dixie jailed 

23 Feb 2008

His criminal past was also international with DNA links to the “savage and sexual” attack of a Thai student in Western Australia and he was investigated in connection with the most notorious unsolved murders in Perth - the Claremont killings.

Police sources are sure he struck several times in Australia, as he travelled the length of the country in the 1990s. They are convinced Miss Bowman is not the first person he killed and believe if there is another victim, it would have been in Australia.

Miss Bowman’s killer lived through aliases, changing his name on at least four occasions to Mark McDonald, Steve McDonald, Mark Down or Shane Turner.

Born in Streatham on September 24, 1970, Dixie lived with his mother and step-father in south east London and started smoking cannabis at 14.

After two convictions for robbery in 1987, he was found guilty of indecent exposure and indecent assault in 1988 when he exposed himself to a woman and forced her to the ground.

Just a few months later, he attacked a woman who had struck up a relationship with his then girlfriend. Trapping the woman in the lift in his tower block in Plumpstead, south east London, he punched her in the face before rubbing his leg against hers.

“I definitely thought he was going to rape me,” she said. “He was holding my arms, I fought a lot and it was then that he hit me, it was my eye mostly and my upper jaw.

“After I struggled to my feet, he got hold of me by the throat with both of his hands. When we got outside, he told me not scream or else he would kill me.”

The woman - now in her 60s - escaped and Dixie was sentenced to six months in prison for indecent assault. In 1993, he moved to Australia with the girlfriend and their two sons, and they moved from Sydney to Queensland, Melbourne to Perth.

Arrested in 1999 for exposing himself, he was deported back to the UK and returned to Croydon. A year before he came home, a Thai student was set upon by a man with a knife who forced her to strip and nearly killed her. No one was ever caught.

But in 2006, a scientific breakthrough identified the DNA found in her underwear as belonging to Dixie. That same year, Dixie was named as suspect in the Claremont killings, where two women died and a third went missing in 1996 and 1997 in Perth. Again, no one has been convicted, but Dixie was cleared of any connection.

On his return to the UK, Dixie moved from working in one pub to another in south east London and Islington, never settling.

In 2003, he went to Spain to work in a restaurant with his new girlfriend Stacey Nivet, then only 19, who discovered she was pregnant. They came back in October 2003 just before she gave birth to their son and lived in Blenheim Crescent where Miss Bowman was murdered two years later.

Dixie and Miss Nivet separated in 2005 - just three weeks before the murder - although they continued to see each other and had a sexual relationship until April 2006.

He kept his violent past from the many women he met over the years, most of whom recalled a man who regularly smoked cannabis, took cocaine and ecstasy. They also described him as moody and unpredictable.

Another ex-girlfriend remembered him regularly drinking 10 pints at a time.

Miss Nivet, now 24, said they would “get a bit rough” when having sex after taking drugs, with him biting her on the neck and sides. Miss Bowman was found with four bite marks on her body.

Miss Nivet said he would “get angry at the slightest thing” but speaking to him only hours after he killed Miss Bowman he appeared his normal self.

He claimed to be “repulsed” by the murder, but refused to offer his DNA when local men were asked to do so to eliminate themselves from the inquiry.

A total of 1,170 men came forward. A few weeks after the killing, he went to Amsterdam but returned in January 2006. Six months after Miss Bowman’s death, he filmed himself committing a sex act in front of a newspaper bearing her image.

Nine months passed as police trawled through thousands of suspects, but it was only when Dixie was arrested in a drunken brawl in Crawley during the 2006 World Cup that his DNA was matched with evidence found at the scene.

Just five hours after his name came up on the DNA database on June 27, he was arrested in his chef whites at the Ye Old Six Bells in Horley, Surrey.

Officers asked if was mentally fit to be arrested and chillingly, he replied: “I must be mad to something like that, eh?”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1579571/Call-for-DNA-database-after-Mark-Dixie-jailed.html

Call for DNA database after Mark Dixie jailed

By Caroline Gammell and Richard Edwards

12:01AM GMT 23 Feb 2008

A senior police officer called for a new nationwide DNA database after details emerged about how close killer Mark Dixie came to escaping justice for the murder of Sally Anne Bowman.

• Sally Anne Bowman killer's police record
• Mark Dixie: 20 years of sexual violence
• Your view: Would a national database make us safer?

Det Supt Stuart Cundy, who led the investigation, spoke out as Dixie was jailed for 34 years for murder.

He said every adult in Britain should be placed on a national register to help fight crime.

Related Articles

• Mark Dixie: 20 years of sexual violence 

12 Apr 2008

• Sally Anne Bowman: Opinionated aspiring model 

22 Feb 2008

• Bowman family: He can't take Sally Anne's memory 

22 Feb 2008

• Mark Dixie's police record 

23 Feb 2008

The Association of Chief Police Officers responded by saying the"time was right" for formal discussions on the idea.

Tony Lake, the Chief Constable of Lincolnshire Police and chairman of Acpo's forensics panel, said: "It would have clear benefits as a crime-fighting tool. Other considerations involve cost and whether this is something we want as a society."

Dixie, 37, who stabbed the 18-year-old model seven times before having sex with her dying body, started attacking women while still a teenager.

He was deported from Australia in 1999 but, crucially, officials did not pass on any intelligence suggesting he was a danger, although he had been linked to at least two sex offences there.

British police are convinced Dixie has murdered before. Mr Cundy said: "I am all for a DNA register, set up with the appropriate safeguards.

• Bowman family: He can't take her memory
• Sally Anne Bowman: Opinionated aspiring model

"If we had one, we could have identified Sally Anne's murderer in 24 hours, which means we could have protected everyone else out there."

The officer stressed this was a personal view, but his plea has the backing of Sally Anne's mother, Linda, who has previously petitioned for the move.

Dixie, a chef, killed Miss Bowman in what a pathologist described as the most "horrific" attack he had seen in his 20-year career. Judge Gerald Gordon said what Dixie had done was "so awful and so repulsive" it was not worth repeating at the Old Bailey as he sentenced him.

Although the evidence against Dixie was overwhelming, senior detectives believe he pleaded not guilty to have the "thrill" of his crime being played out in court.

Miss Bowman's family, including father Paul and sisters Danielle, Nicole and Michelle, cheered as the jury returned their unanimous guilty verdict after three and a half hours of deliberation. One shouted "rot in hell, pervert" as he was sent down.

Unidentified DNA was found on Sally Anne's body and matched to a 2001 sex offence, in which the DNA was also unrecognised. It was only found to be Dixie's by chance — nine months after the murder — when he was arrested in a brawl at a Sussex pub and police took a DNA sample.

They said that without the breakthrough it could have taken two years to track him down, once they had eliminated 22,500 names on a suspects' list.

UK LINK IN WESTERN AUSTRALIAN SERIAL MURDERS?

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/garyhughes/index.php/theaustralian/comments/uk_link_in_wa_serial_murders/

One of Australia’s longest-running serial murder investigations, the Claremont killings in Perth, has taken a new twist with the emergence of a suspect in Britain. The 35-year-old British man, who has been charged with the brutal murder of an 18-year-old girl, lived in WA at the time of the three unsolved Claremont murders. And there are intriguing similarities between the Perth murders and the killing in Britain. Perth police have asked for DNA records of the British suspect and are reportedly preparing to fly to London to question him. But if he does turn out to be the elusive Claremont serial killer, it will raise serious questions about how he was able to slip through the net, given he had been arrested for a sex offence in Perth about six years ago and deported.

Mark Dixie, a pub chef, was arrested in June and charged with the murder of 18-year-old model Sally Anne Bowman in the south London suburb of Croydon in 2005. He had been caught after providing a DNA sample to police following a pub punch-up earlier this year. The DNA sample tied him to the Bowman murder and an incident in south London in 2001, when he allegedly masturbated in front of a woman making a call from a public phone box.

The possible link between Dixie and the Claremont murders was revealed by a south London newspaper last week.

Sally Anne Bowman fits the profile of the three young women killed in Perth. All were attractive young blondes. And all were killed on their way home after being out at nightspots with friends.

Sally Anne was knifed to death, then sexually assaulted not far from her home. Bite marks were found on her body. Only two of the bodies of the Claremont murderer have been found. Police have always refused to reveal details of the cause of death or the injuries they suffered. Sarah Spiers, 18, disappeared in January 1996 and her body has never been found. Jane Rimmer, 23, was murdered in August 1996 and Ciara Glennon, 27, was killed in March 1997. Perth police have also always refused to say whether DNA of their killer was recovered from the bodies, although this seems likely because DNA testing has since been used to eliminate a number of suspects. It would also explain why Dixie’s DNA samples are being sent to Perth for testing.

According to the Perth Sunday Times, Dixie used the alias Shane Turner while working as a chef in Perth and other areas of WA in the 1990s. He became an illegal immigrant when he overstayed his visa and was eventually caught when he exposed himself to a woman in a telephone box about six years ago — the same type of crime he allegedly committed in London in 2001. He was deported back to the UK about six years ago.

WA police will only say that their contact with London police over Dixie was “standard practice of looking at perpetrators of major crimes and their possible links to offences that occurred in WA during their time here”. London police are believed to have already interviewed former friends of Dixie’s in WA.

If Dixie proves to be the Claremont serial killer, it will solve one of the intriguing aspects of the case — why the string of abductions and murders suddenly stopped. Most serial killers keep offending until they are caught.

Perth police had all but given up on ever catching the Claremont killer. In November 2004 a special panel comprising two Australian, two British and one US criminal experts was assembled to review all the evidence gathered to date in the investigation.  In September last year the Macro taskforce which had been working on the killings was scaled back and the investigation handed to a new cold case unit. 

Your Comments

David Daniel Ball
Mon 02 Oct 06 (02:14am)

I think this illustrates that cooperation between law enforcement of different nations .. and press, works. Still, I wonder how many more crimes might be solved through sharing databases of criminal DNA.

Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:12am)

I’m wondering how on earth some of these people get jobs? A tax file number is required if you’re to get work, also, I would have thought this guy was bound to have some sort of criminal record, if so, how did he manage to enter the country in the first place? you’d think some sort of flag would be raised?.

Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (10:59am)

Which still leaves the question of how he got in, in the first place, I would have thought this guy would have some sort of prior history, I know that in the case of Americans that have committed a felony, it shows on their passports, therefore they can be denied an entry visa, if this doesn’t apply to other countries it should, the last thing we need is criminals from other countries coming in and committing crimes here. Co-operation between law agencies of various countries is all well and good, but we need it to happen before the fact, not after a crime has been committed.

animal
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:25am)

It would be interesting to know if there were bite marks found on the bodies of the 2 victims here. These 2 bodies were also found at opposite ends of the Perth metro area, not too far from the main freeway that runs through Perth. Therefore it makes sense that if the suspect was a tourist then he dumped the bodies close to a main road and where the residential area was getting sparser. I really hope the DNA does match as this has been 10 years since the killings and the investigation has gone nowhere. There has been a suspect watched intensely for at least the last 5 years (detectives watching his house 24/7 early on) and this was mainly on the basis that he was a loner who used to drive around the city at all hours and saw one of the victims on the night she disappeared. He also lived in the suburb next to Claremont. The intense scrutiny and focus on this individual has cost thousands of dollars and it will make the WA Police look real bad. Especially considering the head of the Macro task force was recently suspended from duty for the for the handling of the Andrew Mallard case. In this case, Mallard was convicted on circumstantial evidence, and recently got released from jail after new evidence proved he didn’t do it.

Anne
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:14pm)

I was living in WA and in my late teens when the serial killings begain the in mid 90’s. It was a really scary time especially for women who were going out at night. I have always hoped they would have some kind of breakthrough with this case. Thanks for keeping us updated.

Criminologist
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:49pm)

What would you say if the WA Police had suspects and they weren’t watching them?

How loud would the outcry be if one of these were the murderer and the Police had not kept them under observation?

It may not be pleasant, but no doubt, it is necessary.

cathy
Mon 02 Oct 06 (03:49pm)

This bit I don’t understand and hope that someone can clarify. 
In the “which Shorty” case the DNA was flown to UK for more exhaustive DNA testing than capable here (according to the newspapers).

I don’t understand why it can’t be done in this case?

ian
Mon 02 Oct 06 (05:27pm)

The primary suspect seemed to have been followed around the clock for a very long time.  His life became unliveable.  If it turns out not to be him, we are in for the mother of all compo payments.

Jacqui_R, I think he would have no problem getting in and out of the country.  Our immigration policies seem to be more racial than qualitative!

Kim
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:18pm)

All I can think is that if the police checked immigrants leaving Perth around that time the killings stopped & took a close look at why they have left ie deported, maybe the life of that young UK girl could have been saved.

fed up
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:15pm)

Here we go again, remember little Jon Benet, perhaps we should all wait for DNA results before there is any more speculation.  There should be some consideration for the families involved (ie victim’s families). They have probably got their hopes up again and they will be (possibly) dashed.  I know this stuff sells newspapers but pleeaassee have a bit of consideration for victims families.

Grandfanali
Tue 03 Oct 06 (12:43am)

Jacqui_R: Australia has MILLIONS of visitors a year, millions, so checking all of them who wish to come here is impossible. Think of how many tourists show up all round the country each and every day, and then try to imagine a system that could keep up with that sort of inflow of information with accuracy and competence. THEN try to imagine the government paying for it. As we see here, it doesn’t work.

Jonny
Tue 03 Oct 06 (02:40am)

Her name is spelt Sally Anne Bowman - not Sally Ann.

charles hedbring
Tue 03 Oct 06 (09:29am)

As a tourist staying near Fremantle at the time, I for one can attest that the police were doing their job re the Claremont slayings. I was sunbathing on a beach near Woodmans Point and was approached one afternoon by three policeman. Courteous and pleasant, they just chatted with me a few moments (where I was from, where I was staying, my name, how was I enjoying my vacation) and then moved on south along the beach. Just doing their job....

LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
Thu 05 Oct 06 (01:02pm)

Hi Gary, 
Can “we” put pictures up with our posts?

LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault

AussieinUK
Fri 06 Oct 06 (11:50pm)

Am following this story with interest. Was in my early 20s in Perth when the Claremont muders happened. My female friends and I were very wary of going out by ourselves and made sure no-one walked to their cars at night unaccompanied after that.

Since have been living in the UK and rather scarily lived in the very street in Croydon where Sally Anne was murdered. So got the shock of my life watching the news in Perth the other night and seeing the link between the two cases.

Dr. Phibes
Mon 09 Oct 06 (11:26pm)

I believe Sarah Spiers is in water either in Ankatel (south)or north of Wanneroo.And Sarah Mc Mahon is near Mundaring Wier.Just a feeling i get. Andyinwa@hotmail.com

author
Tue 10 Oct 06 (11:27am)

Hi Gary. I’m a true crime author now finishing a book on the Claremont serial killings for an Australian publishing company. I read this site with interest. If anyone has any stories to share re Claremont I’ll gladly take them. My deadline is three weeks. 

author
Wed 11 Oct 06 (11:17am)

Thanks Gary

MightBeWorthAdding
Thu 12 Oct 06 (03:11am)

Actually, the ABC’s ‘Australian Story’ did a special on the Claremont serial killings a few years back and some of the victim’s parents expressed consternation at the police attitude that the Claremont serial killer just “suddenly stopped”. It was pointed out that it isn’t true that there have been no other disappearances/unsolved murders of women besides these three. Other young women in Perth or near Perth have also disappeared in highly suspicious circumstances - and after Ciara Glennon in 1997 too.

Some of the families of the other missing young women were concerned by the police insisting their daughter’s disappearances were definitely not connected to the Claremont serial killings. Understandably, in my opinion. Isn’t it a bit short sighted?  Claremont’s just one small suburb. It’s crazy to think every other missing young woman couldn’t have met the same horrible fate too. Why shouldn’t other missing women be considered possible victims too? Just because they either didn’t have blonde hair or didn’t go missing in Claremont? That’s assuming a lot.

I’m glad they are apparently looking at new suspects though - stories like this renew my faith in the police and I hope and pray that the serial killer will be caught eventually.

Dr.Phibes
Sat 21 Oct 06 (01:11am)

I met Sarah Mc Mahon in early nov 2000. She came to my place for a visit with 2 friends on a Friday.I saw her on the Sunday afterwards. She disappeared on the day after Melbourne Cup in Nov 2000. The Police flew their chopper (Polair 61) over my 1/2 acre place near the Swan Valley, as cause i had met her.They bugged my phone for a while. I have had a woman giving me probs for ages. Don`t ya hate that, ppl accusing ya of bopping sum 1 off then annoying ya to hell thinking they can do that & sleep ok?Andy. PS:  ffs, some ppl do not learn to leave some ppl alone.

missclaudia
Fri 27 Oct 06 (10:27pm)

The WA police force has a deplorable record of investigating the disappearance of and attacks on woman in Perth.

When the Birnies were hunting girls in the ‘80s, the police, despite credible and consistent reports from families and friends of the missing girls, refused to take the disappearances seriously. I was, at the time, a neighbour of one the murdered girls and heard first-hand the appalling treatment that her parents received at the hands of police. They accused the missing 15 year old, a straight A student with no problems and good references, of variously being a run-away, a prostitute, troubled, drug addled and attention-seeking.

All this in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary from fellow students, teachers, the parents, various teen counsellors and her neighbours.  The police, either too incompetent or too shiftless to act, upped the ante against the teenager, accusing her of being an accomplished scammer and liar, experienced in hiding aberrant behaviour behind an angelic facade.

In fact, this poor young child was an innocent teenager, being brutally assaulted, and latterly murdered, by the Birnies.

Young women have been routinely disappearing from Perth streets since the early 80s and the police have resolutely refused to do anything about it.

The reason that the police have been brought to account, and their ineptitude exposed, more recently is that two of the parents of the missing Claremont girls had the political clout to compel the police to firstly, act and secondly, tacitly admit that they were, and had always been, out of their depth in major criminal cases.

Whilst no public statements have been issued by the international experts called in to assist WA police, it is well known by journalists that many of these experts were horrified by the lack of police process, diligence and expertise in the early stages of this investigation.

The fact that the police continue to dismiss further disappearances of women is not surprising given that at times their desire to cover their ineptitude and plain laziness has by far outweighed their commitment to preventing any further incidences.

If this UK fellow does turn out to be the Claremont killer then the police will have some serious questions to answer, not the least of which will be why they continued to harass and bully suspects long past the date when ANYONE believed the suspects had a case to answer.

I fervently hope that the Spiers can bury Sarah, that Julie Cutler’s parents find out where she is, that Ciarra and Jane’s family can at last walk down Perth streets without peering into the faces of every male they pass and that Sarah McMahon’s mother can at least know if her daughter is dead or alive.

Goldie
Sat 04 Nov 06 (05:38pm)

Hello Gary, 
Did the police ever come up with a clear profile for the killer (or killers) of Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer? 
I wonder why they’ve never stated one way or the other whether they have any DNA of the killer/s? What advantage could there be in holding this back from the public?  - Goldie

Linda Bowman
Fri 10 Nov 06 (12:17pm)

i am the mother of SALLY ANNE BOWMAN, my 18year old daughter was murdered on 25th september 2005. she was brutally stabbed to death and sexually assaulted. i keep reading about the clairmont murders in perth western australia, but to my knowledge no! D.N.A. has been requested from london on mark dixie, alias shane turner from the australian police, i wish it had so the families in australia of these younge girls who have been murdered there can maybe have some closure if the D.N.A. is a match. The parents in australia need to push this matter with the Australian police A.S.A.P.

pye
Sun 12 Nov 06 (08:24am)

. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=150338 Not according to this report .I dont think the Brit police will state publicly any information about this until the outcome of the trial of Dixie ,It could interfear or influence his plea

phantom62
Wed 15 Nov 06 (05:08am)

This is very interesting, but as far as I know, the police have NO DNA found on the bodies of the two victims so far found. They have stated that the bodies were in too advanced a state of decomposition to obtain any. But here is something I have suspected for a while. It is based on the fact that the police warrant stipulated that they were searching for human body tissue and flesh when they were searching Mr Weygers properties. The police have stated that they killer washed his car on site after dumping the bodies. I suspect that the killer only washed the part of the car that may have bloodstains on it. The killer probably drives a utility or station wagon and would have used the tailgate to “process” the body before dumping them. That is to say, the killer needed to remove body parts that may have got DNA on them during the course of the murder. Sally Anne Bowman was found to have bite marks on her body. So it would seem for the murder victims here too. Maybe also the killers DNA was under their finger nails. So these parts may have been missing from the bodies. They may even have been discarded close to the vehicle. I wonder if any one can tell me the eye colours for Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon? I know it seems gruesome but Catherine Birnie claimed she amputated the parts of their victims breasts that may have DNA after they were dead. David Birnie also mutilated the bodies to make them more difficult to find where they were buried. With regard to the person writing a book about these killings, I may have some data he could use that ties the murders and disappearances together. Before you ask, no I am not the killer. I was a military intelligence analyst before I retired, so I like to keep my mind turning over by doing some armchair detective work. But I can show you or the author that there is a direct link between these killings and the disappearance of Lisa Mott.

David Daniel Ball
Mon 02 Oct 06 (02:14am)

I think this illustrates that cooperation between law enforcement of different nations .. and press, works. Still, I wonder how many more crimes might be solved through sharing databases of criminal DNA.

Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:12am)

I’m wondering how on earth some of these people get jobs? A tax file number is required if you’re to get work, also, I would have thought this guy was bound to have some sort of criminal record, if so, how did he manage to enter the country in the first place? you’d think some sort of flag would be raised?.

Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (10:59am)

Which still leaves the question of how he got in, in the first place, I would have thought this guy would have some sort of prior history, I know that in the case of Americans that have committed a felony, it shows on their passports, therefore they can be denied an entry visa, if this doesn’t apply to other countries it should, the last thing we need is criminals from other countries coming in and committing crimes here. Co-operation between law agencies of various countries is all well and good, but we need it to happen before the fact, not after a crime has been committed.

animal
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:25am)

It would be interesting to know if there were bite marks found on the bodies of the 2 victims here. These 2 bodies were also found at opposite ends of the Perth metro area, not too far from the main freeway that runs through Perth. Therefore it makes sense that if the suspect was a tourist then he dumped the bodies close to a main road and where the residential area was getting sparser. I really hope the DNA does match as this has been 10 years since the killings and the investigation has gone nowhere. There has been a suspect watched intensely for at least the last 5 years (detectives watching his house 24/7 early on) and this was mainly on the basis that he was a loner who used to drive around the city at all hours and saw one of the victims on the night she disappeared. He also lived in the suburb next to Claremont. The intense scrutiny and focus on this individual has cost thousands of dollars and it will make the WA Police look real bad. Especially considering the head of the Macro task force was recently suspended from duty for the for the handling of the Andrew Mallard case. In this case, Mallard was convicted on circumstantial evidence, and recently got released from jail after new evidence proved he didn’t do it.

Anne
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:14pm)

I was living in WA and in my late teens when the serial killings begain the in mid 90’s. It was a really scary time especially for women who were going out at night. I have always hoped they would have some kind of breakthrough with this case. Thanks for keeping us updated.

Criminologist
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:49pm)

What would you say if the WA Police had suspects and they weren’t watching them?

How loud would the outcry be if one of these were the murderer and the Police had not kept them under observation?

It may not be pleasant, but no doubt, it is necessary.

cathy
Mon 02 Oct 06 (03:49pm)

This bit I don’t understand and hope that someone can clarify. 
In the “which Shorty” case the DNA was flown to UK for more exhaustive DNA testing than capable here (according to the newspapers).

I don’t understand why it can’t be done in this case?

ian
Mon 02 Oct 06 (05:27pm)

The primary suspect seemed to have been followed around the clock for a very long time.  His life became unliveable.  If it turns out not to be him, we are in for the mother of all compo payments.

Jacqui_R, I think he would have no problem getting in and out of the country.  Our immigration policies seem to be more racial than qualitative!

Kim
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:18pm)

All I can think is that if the police checked immigrants leaving Perth around that time the killings stopped & took a close look at why they have left ie deported, maybe the life of that young UK girl could have been saved.

fed up
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:15pm)

Here we go again, remember little Jon Benet, perhaps we should all wait for DNA results before there is any more speculation.  There should be some consideration for the families involved (ie victim’s families). They have probably got their hopes up again and they will be (possibly) dashed.  I know this stuff sells newspapers but pleeaassee have a bit of consideration for victims families.

Grandfanali
Tue 03 Oct 06 (12:43am)

Jacqui_R: Australia has MILLIONS of visitors a year, millions, so checking all of them who wish to come here is impossible. Think of how many tourists show up all round the country each and every day, and then try to imagine a system that could keep up with that sort of inflow of information with accuracy and competence. THEN try to imagine the government paying for it. As we see here, it doesn’t work.

Jonny
Tue 03 Oct 06 (02:40am)

Her name is spelt Sally Anne Bowman - not Sally Ann.

charles hedbring
Tue 03 Oct 06 (09:29am)

As a tourist staying near Fremantle at the time, I for one can attest that the police were doing their job re the Claremont slayings. I was sunbathing on a beach near Woodmans Point and was approached one afternoon by three policeman. Courteous and pleasant, they just chatted with me a few moments (where I was from, where I was staying, my name, how was I enjoying my vacation) and then moved on south along the beach. Just doing their job....

LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
Thu 05 Oct 06 (01:02pm)

Hi Gary, 
Can “we” put pictures up with our posts?

LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault

AussieinUK
Fri 06 Oct 06 (11:50pm)

Am following this story with interest. Was in my early 20s in Perth when the Claremont muders happened. My female friends and I were very wary of going out by ourselves and made sure no-one walked to their cars at night unaccompanied after that.

Since have been living in the UK and rather scarily lived in the very street in Croydon where Sally Anne was murdered. So got the shock of my life watching the news in Perth the other night and seeing the link between the two cases.

Dr. Phibes
Mon 09 Oct 06 (11:26pm)

I believe Sarah Spiers is in water either in Ankatel (south)or north of Wanneroo.And Sarah Mc Mahon is near Mundaring Wier.Just a feeling i get. Andyinwa@hotmail.com

author
Tue 10 Oct 06 (11:27am)

Hi Gary. I’m a true crime author now finishing a book on the Claremont serial killings for an Australian publishing company. I read this site with interest. If anyone has any stories to share re Claremont I’ll gladly take them. My deadline is three weeks. 

author
Wed 11 Oct 06 (11:17am)

Thanks Gary

MightBeWorthAdding
Thu 12 Oct 06 (03:11am)

Actually, the ABC’s ‘Australian Story’ did a special on the Claremont serial killings a few years back and some of the victim’s parents expressed consternation at the police attitude that the Claremont serial killer just “suddenly stopped”. It was pointed out that it isn’t true that there have been no other disappearances/unsolved murders of women besides these three. Other young women in Perth or near Perth have also disappeared in highly suspicious circumstances - and after Ciara Glennon in 1997 too.

Some of the families of the other missing young women were concerned by the police insisting their daughter’s disappearances were definitely not connected to the Claremont serial killings. Understandably, in my opinion. Isn’t it a bit short sighted?  Claremont’s just one small suburb. It’s crazy to think every other missing young woman couldn’t have met the same horrible fate too. Why shouldn’t other missing women be considered possible victims too? Just because they either didn’t have blonde hair or didn’t go missing in Claremont? That’s assuming a lot.

I’m glad they are apparently looking at new suspects though - stories like this renew my faith in the police and I hope and pray that the serial killer will be caught eventually.

Dr.Phibes
Sat 21 Oct 06 (01:11am)

I met Sarah Mc Mahon in early nov 2000. She came to my place for a visit with 2 friends on a Friday.I saw her on the Sunday afterwards. She disappeared on the day after Melbourne Cup in Nov 2000. The Police flew their chopper (Polair 61) over my 1/2 acre place near the Swan Valley, as cause i had met her.They bugged my phone for a while. I have had a woman giving me probs for ages. Don`t ya hate that, ppl accusing ya of bopping sum 1 off then annoying ya to hell thinking they can do that & sleep ok?Andy. PS:  ffs, some ppl do not learn to leave some ppl alone.

missclaudia
Fri 27 Oct 06 (10:27pm)

The WA police force has a deplorable record of investigating the disappearance of and attacks on woman in Perth.

When the Birnies were hunting girls in the ‘80s, the police, despite credible and consistent reports from families and friends of the missing girls, refused to take the disappearances seriously. I was, at the time, a neighbour of one the murdered girls and heard first-hand the appalling treatment that her parents received at the hands of police. They accused the missing 15 year old, a straight A student with no problems and good references, of variously being a run-away, a prostitute, troubled, drug addled and attention-seeking.

All this in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary from fellow students, teachers, the parents, various teen counsellors and her neighbours.  The police, either too incompetent or too shiftless to act, upped the ante against the teenager, accusing her of being an accomplished scammer and liar, experienced in hiding aberrant behaviour behind an angelic facade.

In fact, this poor young child was an innocent teenager, being brutally assaulted, and latterly murdered, by the Birnies.

Young women have been routinely disappearing from Perth streets since the early 80s and the police have resolutely refused to do anything about it.

The reason that the police have been brought to account, and their ineptitude exposed, more recently is that two of the parents of the missing Claremont girls had the political clout to compel the police to firstly, act and secondly, tacitly admit that they were, and had always been, out of their depth in major criminal cases.

Whilst no public statements have been issued by the international experts called in to assist WA police, it is well known by journalists that many of these experts were horrified by the lack of police process, diligence and expertise in the early stages of this investigation.

The fact that the police continue to dismiss further disappearances of women is not surprising given that at times their desire to cover their ineptitude and plain laziness has by far outweighed their commitment to preventing any further incidences.

If this UK fellow does turn out to be the Claremont killer then the police will have some serious questions to answer, not the least of which will be why they continued to harass and bully suspects long past the date when ANYONE believed the suspects had a case to answer.

I fervently hope that the Spiers can bury Sarah, that Julie Cutler’s parents find out where she is, that Ciarra and Jane’s family can at last walk down Perth streets without peering into the faces of every male they pass and that Sarah McMahon’s mother can at least know if her daughter is dead or alive.

Goldie
Sat 04 Nov 06 (05:38pm)

Hello Gary, 
Did the police ever come up with a clear profile for the killer (or killers) of Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer? 
I wonder why they’ve never stated one way or the other whether they have any DNA of the killer/s? What advantage could there be in holding this back from the public?  - Goldie

Linda Bowman
Fri 10 Nov 06 (12:17pm)

i am the mother of SALLY ANNE BOWMAN, my 18year old daughter was murdered on 25th september 2005. she was brutally stabbed to death and sexually assaulted. i keep reading about the clairmont murders in perth western australia, but to my knowledge no! D.N.A. has been requested from london on mark dixie, alias shane turner from the australian police, i wish it had so the families in australia of these younge girls who have been murdered there can maybe have some closure if the D.N.A. is a match. The parents in australia need to push this matter with the Australian police A.S.A.P.

pye
Sun 12 Nov 06 (08:24am)

. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=150338 Not according to this report .I dont think the Brit police will state publicly any information about this until the outcome of the trial of Dixie ,It could interfear or influence his plea

phantom62
Wed 15 Nov 06 (05:08am)

This is very interesting, but as far as I know, the police have NO DNA found on the bodies of the two victims so far found. They have stated that the bodies were in too advanced a state of decomposition to obtain any. But here is something I have suspected for a while. It is based on the fact that the police warrant stipulated that they were searching for human body tissue and flesh when they were searching Mr Weygers properties. The police have stated that they killer washed his car on site after dumping the bodies. I suspect that the killer only washed the part of the car that may have bloodstains on it. The killer probably drives a utility or station wagon and would have used the tailgate to “process” the body before dumping them. That is to say, the killer needed to remove body parts that may have got DNA on them during the course of the murder. Sally Anne Bowman was found to have bite marks on her body. So it would seem for the murder victims here too. Maybe also the killers DNA was under their finger nails. So these parts may have been missing from the bodies. They may even have been discarded close to the vehicle. I wonder if any one can tell me the eye colours for Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon? I know it seems gruesome but Catherine Birnie claimed she amputated the parts of their victims breasts that may have DNA after they were dead. David Birnie also mutilated the bodies to make them more difficult to find where they were buried. With regard to the person writing a book about these killings, I may have some data he could use that ties the murders and disappearances together. Before you ask, no I am not the killer. I was a military intelligence analyst before I retired, so I like to keep my mind turning over by doing some armchair detective work. But I can show you or the author that there is a direct link between these killings and the disappearance of Lisa Mott.

john
Wed 13 Dec 06 (06:37am)

now 5 prostitues found dead by serial killer in ipswich suffolk uk two found today 12/12/06http://www.sky.com/news

john
Wed 13 Dec 06 (10:27am)

thanks dr phibes for area proximity of champion lake most[interesting]are police treating blackburn and agge cases as a murder enquiry yet?as 14 days have elapsed since their disapearences [which is the norm] http://www.police.wa.gov.au have also experienced polair 61 and phone bugging was informed by oz army sas mate chopper carries heat seeking censors[equipment] i request from phantom 62 more detailed area proximity of glennon site was it at end of the bituman road? will check goggle earth.com unaware of running creek at walcott road rimmer site she was dumped near end on left side of then part bituman road[today fully bitumaned] its likely he u turned so not to leave tyre tracks on the continues gravel road ahead not so at the gerald ross site at stakehill road some 8kms away where tyre tracks were found to resemble a van being used confirmed to me by certain detectives there are also striking similiaraties the way rimmer and ross were dumped will post later

phantom62
Thu 14 Dec 06 (12:05am)

John of UK I can give you exact information. 
Ciara Glennon was found at South 31 degrees 34 minutes 956 seconds by East 115 degrees 40 minutes 40 seconds. 
Jane Rimmer was found at South 32 degrees 16 minutes 353 seconds by East 115 degrees 51 minutes 553 seconds.

You are correct that Woolcoot Rd was gravel when Jane was dumped. Ciara was found 60 metres off Pipidinny Road and 800 metres from where the road bends near Lacey Rd. I also believe that these killings are related to the disappearance of Lisa Mott. If you draw a line from Ciara to Jane and then continue it South it intersects the town of Collie. The distance is exactly 200 kms at a small stream on Ewing Rd.

I saw a news report of the killings in Suffolk and in particular one of the girls who was interviewed a week before she too was murdered. (creepy) But one thing that stood out in the photo was her eyes.....GREEN. 
Is anyone in UK able to find out the colour of the other victims’ eyes? 
Here is an interesting scenario you may wish to consider.

The killings in West Australia have stopped as far as we know. There is a bit of publicity no doubt in UK too about Mark Dixie possibly connected with the killings in WA. The police have now disproved his involvement. Now suddenly 5 girls are killed in avery short space of time. Could this be the same killer as Perth letting us know he is still active? I know it is a long hunch but can anyone furnish me with the locations of the 5 bodies so far in relation to a set map of the UK or at least Suffolk?

The disappearance at Champion Lake is still open, and I will try to get some other data in the next few days. Now I have so much data from the new mapping software I now have a whole set of new locations to check out for possible remains. I am also interested in the death of Gerard Ross but find it hard to accept that his killer is the same person. On the other hand the girl killed in Mandurah in the 1980s body was found near Pinjarra, which falls into the line between Collie and Jane Rimmer. More later.

phantom62
Thu 14 Dec 06 (12:55am)

OK. Forget my hunches on the Suffolk killings. They are not connected with the Perth killings at all. They all had different coloured eyes, their bodies were scattered randomly probably because he drove around waiting for the right opportunity to dump them unseen and quickly. I suspect he is someone who uses prostitutes regularly and has had a bad experience with one recently, maybe caught a disease or wasn’t able to perform? It may be possible, because he uses them often, that many prostitutes know him and that is why he has been able to pick up these 5 so quickly.

One possible idea for clues: the girls who were dumped in woodland were probably near tracks with trees or shrubs close to the edge of the road. Maybe the police should check along this track to see if there are any branches or sticks that have traces of paint on them from scratching the killers vehicle.

Dr.Phibes
Thu 14 Dec 06 (09:13pm)

Um, John I don`t know anything re Blackburn & Agge cases over here. Haven`t heard anything about it at all. In Regards to Polair 61. They flew their chopper over the paddocks near my place & did a u - turn over Roe Highway & came straight back over my place. I was replacing the veranda poles at the time,(arvo in November 2000), & managed to get a camera out as they went past to do the u turn. I took 1 or 2 more as they flew over.My block of land is a reas. size, but is narrow but quite long. I saw their thermal imaging camers out the side/left front.It was too big of a job to have someone go over the 1/2 acre block with a push radar cart.They used the chopper so they didn`t have to get a warrant and could get heat readings of the ground if a mates lady friend (Sarah Mc Mahon)was there.They flew smack down the Middle then went straight back to base. Hey your Ipswitch Serial Killer is going hammer & tongs (excuse the pun) with the 5 prostitues who have been killed. Guess he`s trying to improve on our New South Wales Backpacker killer Ivan Milat. I think he got to 7 but probably far more they recon. In regards to Gerald Ross who was found in Baldivis; I was riding my dirtbike down that way in the Baldivis pine plantation when i rode past a cross. I thought someone on a bike had come unstuck,as they do quite alot over here in the stix. I went back & had a look & found it was erected by the Shoalwater Task Force who were investigating his disappearance.He was found off an internal track in the small plantation.Bit hard to drive in there with the ruts & sand unless u had a 4wd.Some tracks u can use a 2wd.A few people from the local horse riding school ride thru there. Jane R was identified by her belly ring.She was a daycare worker near my workplace but there r quite a few d/c places in Wembley. Perth.

Dr.Phibes
Thu 14 Dec 06 (10:19pm)

John i did a search in the Police site u linked us all to.Yes those 2 women are missing. But there hasn`t been much on the news( well i haven`t seen anything) Alot of ppl go missing but most take shelter at friends as they don`t want to be found as they want to sort their immediate probs out. Thats why it isn`t big news for a few days. They simply turn up later,well mostly.

phantom62
Tue 19 Dec 06 (09:51am)

I am happy to report that Anna Agge was located on the 3rd of December. This is typical of our police who seem to forget to let the public know when we need to stop looking. Or maybe it’s the media who no longer find the subject news worthy so they don’t waste their time with it any more. I also see the UK cops have made an arrest of a former cop in relation to the Suffolk Strangler killings. An ex-cop no less, who uses prostitutes regularly. 
There is a strongly held belief here in Perth that the Claremont serial killer is either a serving cop or ex cop. That would make it a lot easier for him to stay in the area unobtrusively where he could watch the taxi ranks or monitor a scanner for the taxi calls.

john
Fri 22 Dec 06 (10:05am)

man charged steve wright with the serial killings of 5 prostitutes in ipswich suffolk uk 10 31 pm gmt 21/12/06

phantom62
Sun 24 Dec 06 (06:35am)

Good to see the poms found the Suffolk Strangler so quick. Maybe they could have a look at the Claremont Serial Killer to see what theyfind.

john
Sun 31 Dec 06 (09:29am)

REGARDS TO ALL FOR 2007 AND ASHES WIN NOT HUMAN OF COURSE LOL ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE COULD SOMEONE BRIEF ME ON LATEST MURDER VICTIM STACEY LEE MITCHELL 16 YR OLD GIRL AT REAR OF 14 RUTLAND AVE LATHLAIN 21/12/06 http://WWW.POLICE.WA.GOV.AU WHEN AND WHERE GO MISSING NO MEDIA COVERAGE POSTED I SEE POLICE COMMISSIONER OCALLAHAN HAS HIS TERM EXTENDED FURTHER 5 YRS LETS HOPE EVEN BEYOND THAT [DOES THIS SIGINIFY POSITIVE SIGNS ON THE CRIME SCENES] SOMEHOW I THINK SO? HE KICKED ARSE WITHIN THE FORCE WHICH NO DOUBT MADE HIM UNPOPULAR I HAVE THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR THIS GUY

phantom62
Fri 05 Jan 07 (05:54am)

Dr Phibes, Do you know if Sarah McMahon belonged to a health club in the Claremont area? If so do you know which one? I have been doing some legwork in the Bayview Tce area and made quite a startling discovery. I am reasonably sure that each victim knew the killer, the killer had previously selected them from a list he had possession of, I think I know where each victim was murdered ( the same place) They were probably kept in this place after their death and then driven to their dumping grounds the following night. I have some more legwork to do now to find out the name of the killer, but at least I know what happened to each victim. If I am correct this case should be solved before June 2007. Can anyone tell me what clothes, jewellry and accessories each victim was wearing on the night of their murders? I believe none of this has been found yet. It may be important now.

phantom62
Fri 05 Jan 07 (05:57am)

I touched on the Falconio disappearance a few weeks ago but now I was wondering if we could start a blog on this subject. There are many inconsistencies in this story and it would beinteresting to see how much other people might know, especially if they are familiar with the area north of Barrow Creek.

john
Wed 17 Jan 07 (11:20pm)

gary hughes are u still taking comments on this page can you confirm

Dr.Phibes
Fri 19 Jan 07 (10:22pm)

Two young ladies 17 or 18 have been charged with her murder John. Guess they forgot to swap wheelie bins (rubbish bins) with another house in the street… Reminds me of the idiots at snowtown with the bodies in the barrels in the disused bank vault.Was only a matter of time in both cases.

john
Sat 20 Jan 07 (06:43am)

hi phantom62 there was a health club demolished last year on stirling highway claremont opposite church and caporn estate agents where spiers was last seen at telephone box [previously demolished] can anyone brief on missing girls christine upton 9/12/06 at carramar and stacey mitchell 21/12/06 at lathlain

Dr.Phibes
Wed 24 Jan 07 (11:27pm)

Phantom62 I don`t think Sarah McMahon belonged to a health club in Claremont. She lived virtually on the opposite side of town to Claremont. 
You say each victim knew the killer.They were selected from a list. You say you know where they were murdered? You recon you need to do more legwork to find the C.S.K`s name? You know what happened to each victim? Um, you seem to know alot that most people do not know. I know a bit too. But you ask about clothing missing,Jewellery & accessories missing that virtually everyone knows were taken; Brooch, sunflower keyring etc. etc. Give me a buzz.  Andy andyinwa@hotmail.com

Dr.Phibes
Wed 24 Jan 07 (11:43pm)

These 2 sites, especially the 1st one are compelling viewing. Gary i hope you let me show the links; andy. 

http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20010901/

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s146359.htm

K
Sat 27 Jan 07 (10:16am)

I find it quite absurd that you are suggesting these victims were selected depending on thier eye colour. this assumes that the offender knew his victims, or at least had seen them before, in order to target them based on thier eye colour. Also it seems unlikely that a serial sex offender would wait to encounter a victim with his prefered eye colour before offending. Even if it is established that all these girls did have green eyes, what does this tell us?? The cases could not possibly be linked on such a weak association.

john
Sat 03 Feb 07 (01:29pm)

the state crime squad i believe link serial killer with other cold case crimes and have info to support that theory popidinka/mcmahon/ugle/deb anderson found in her burnt out car possibly torched? on oz day long weekend same day 25/1 anniversary of spiers or just coincidence?i beg to differ also scs refuse to confirm or deny if police mislaid/lost two possible vital pieces of physical evidence and why did a high ranked scs officer assist oic vinney kins.... resign one week after info was passed to him in which he replied we want physical evidence theory is he was at odds with his oic anthony lee [knickname kirky] concerning info alternativly passed onto police commisioner ocallahan for answers via his liason officer kate m......i await their reply

phantom62
Wed 14 Feb 07 (03:09am)

OK I was going to send all I knew to the cops after my last letter, but the feedback from K of London and Dr Phibes has made me release some stuff. Let’s start with Sarah Spiers. She was last seen on Stirling Rd waiting for a taxi. She disappeared quickly

Jane Rimmer Last seen walking down St Quebtin Ave in front of Club Bayview.

Ciara Glennon last seen standing outside shops in Stirling Highway opposite McDonalds store.

All three of these victims were last seen standing and they could all be seen from the first floor windows of.............The BC Body Club health club. It is possible all three were members of this health club. Someone inside looks out the window and sees each victim standing. He knows there names because they are all members. And he already knows their eyecolour from seeing them. They may well have known him, since they all simply got into his car without a fight. He drives them to the health club and kills them there, wraps them in black plastic and dumps them in his car. The cops don’t come near his shop since they think it was closed late at night. As soon as the cops have finished he drives the bodies to previously selected dumping grouns. In Sarah Speirs case she may well have been buried in the garden beds at the health club. A few years later he closes the club. It remains vacant for a few years until one night it is torched by persons unknown. If there was any evidence there it’s well gone now.

Ok so that should answer Dr Phibes. Now K of London the only reason I ask about jewellery worn by the victims is because I frequent jewellery sales at auctions. By now the killer may have died or been jailed or moved on. But I still want to keep an eye out for their jewellery.

Write direct to me at phantom62@hotmail.com

john
Sat 24 Feb 07 (01:52am)

i ask phantom 62 again about the glennon site was it off bitumen road in bush on left side head east from coast or left side of road head west to coast or was it off non bitumen track which runs parallel with bitumen road head west to coast because goggleearth.com give same degree positions for all 3 mentioned

tracycudd
Sun 25 Feb 07 (09:10pm)

hi id like to say that mark dixie, was running my local pub at the time he killed sally anne bowman, many of us regulars got friendly with him, my partner took him to football matches, and we spent alot of time in the pub with him and and his wife and his little son who is a double of him too! my grandson played with him, we remember going in the pub one day and he had scratches on his neck and face, he said he had a fight with his wife, but many of us believe now that, it could have been sally anne, we are all so shocked that we befriended this low life scum bag, and our hearts are with her and her family, no one from the police has asked the regulars about him only the staff well i speak on behalf of the rose and crown regulars we pray justice for sally anne and her family god bless xxx that

Dr.Phibes
Fri 02 Mar 07 (11:50pm)

Sorry Phantom62, I wasn`t trying to wind ya up. I just wanted to know why the secrecy with your info.Interesting re the Health club theory. But as i said Sarah Mc Mahon only worked in Claremont & would probably been a member of a club in the hills near her home. In the link i provided above, a casual worker at an East Fremantle Company had a girlfriend who wore a gladdagh ring. Ciara Glennon wore a claddagh (irish) brooch. How co-incidental that is i have thought.The worker was capable of turning the brooch into a ring.Phantom u haven`t mentioned what exactly happened to the women.Send me an e mail if you can. I`ll tell u what i know.  John of the u.k; I have tried to get the W.A. Police to re-open the Deborah Michelle Anderson case in Middle Swan. I knew the young Lady`s Auntie.So i said i`d try to get it reopened for her. No luck when i tried.  Tracey of U.K; Did you go to the police re your suspicions of Mark Dixie?  There is a lake or 3 down south where i want to have a look at. One area is where the Freeway may have gone thru an area where a lady (who has commented on here) and i think Sarah S. may be. An off ramp may now be covering the spot, so i want to go to Dept.of Land Administration in Midland, Perth to check out old maps. As someone said Google Earth is a great tool to use,and that has been helpful.  Dr.Phibes.

Dr.Phibes
Sat 03 Mar 07 (12:08am)

Hi ya Gary, here is another v.g link the blog readers may like to have a look at.

http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2003/s1042100.htm

john
Sun 11 Mar 07 (12:13am)

hi can anyone or phan 62 or even gary hughes advise me on the actual position of the glennon dump site.

tracycudd
Mon 12 Mar 07 (06:49am)

HI 
DR.PHIBES, REGUARDING YOUR QUESTION, NO WE DIDINT GO TO POLICE, AS ITS ONLY SINCE HIS ARREST THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AGAIN, AND AS WE CANNOT REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WE CANNOT PROVE OTHERWISE, BUT WE ARE ALL AGREED THAT WE THINK IT WAS AROUND THE TIME, BUT AS I SAY WE ARE NOT 100% ON IT, I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE CASE AND ALSO THE CLAREMONT CRIMES TOO, IF YOU CAN TELL ME ANYTHING THAT I CANT FIND ON NET I WILL PUT MY EMAIL ADDRESS ON PAGE, AM NOT PERSUMING ANYONE CAN BUT JUST INCASE, THANX TRACY XXX

tracycudd
Mon 12 Mar 07 (06:51am)

sorry forgot email tracycudd@aol.com

john
Tue 13 Mar 07 (09:27am)

i would reason with phantom 62 about the 80 km distance between the glennon / rimmer dump sites and have always been somewhat suspicious concerning the exact proximity 40 km north and south of the abduction points it is evident to see that in no way rimmer [regardless of badly decomposed body] he lay at edge of part bitumen walcott rd baldives for 8 weeks since her abduction at claremont which may suggest the killer had a holding area in addition to murder and dump sites although remote it is part residential and consider her body size someone would have found her sooner rather than later gerald ross would also come under scrutiny as victim of same killer his dump site 8 km away at karnup in striking similarities the way dumped as rimmer he at a u turn point of track on left side at forefront of forest making no attempt to disguise body in forest is as if he wanted body to be found [probably to taunt police further]?  in both cases it suggests a van was used with slide door on left side of van with quick access to roll out and dump a body and as police have confirmed to me van tyre tracks were found remember case of girl raped at karrakata cementry nr claremont [police seem to believe victim of serial killer]she was hooded /bound /and pushed into something she said resembled a van all this has the hallmarks of a killer with military background [planner]which police are aware of and seek

Phantom62
Fri 16 Mar 07 (01:44pm)

John of UK, I have previously given everybody the exact locations of both Jane and Ciara’s bodies in this blog. However I will say that Ciara Glenon was found 40 metres off the Pipidinny Rd near a parking spot that is used by a beekeeper. There is a cross erected that marks the exact spot. As to your belief the killer used a van with a side opening door to just roll the bodies out, I would disagree. Ciara was found in deep bushland 40 mteres away from the parking bay as well. She was deliberately placed there at exactly the same angle before North that Jane was placed, the same angle before South. (11 degress in both cases) I think the killer has a utility and that is also why the cops are finding car washing gear at each site. But I think he is only washing the small amount of area that may have DNA on it, rather than the whole car.

Dr.Phibes
Sun 18 Mar 07 (11:55pm)

Hi ja John, I have been to the G.Ross site in Baldivis.Where he was found wouldn`t easily have been seen by a fast 4 wh. Driver, but someone on a horse from a local horse club did find him.
In Regards to Jane Rimmer, as you drive down Woolcoot Rd,Wellard, towards Miller Rd, she was found 2 to 3 metres approx from a culvert that runs underneath the road, though on the right side of the road & in the semi-Ditch.There is a cross there. John i know you live far away, but there were mistakes in your suburbs to the victims. In regards to jane, yes i cannot believe no one saw her as she was so close to the road someone had to.Yes there was probably a dungeon involved.They searched under my lil house too,but that was due to a different situation.But they had an excuse(due to my home invasion & subsequently me stopping the character)to look under the house & they found a bone, probably a dogs buried 1 there,ffs, heh. You mentioned a military background. Well Serial Killers plan well so they can carry on doing what they obviously are addicted to.Boy Scouts can tie knots like courier drivers can too,& everyone can dig a hole.So the military lead is a guess i think.

john
Thu 22 Mar 07 (12:35am)

hi dr phibes police seek and are aware of killer with military background [which was mentioned in past by media] the first question asked to me[am i ex military]by macro at crane house perth they somewhat agreed he may have known his victims rimmer was dumped on left side woolcott rd wellard[thanks for suburb correction]drive north from miller rd hi phantom 62 glennon was a small petit girl easy to carry[i know that from a woman friend who went to same school and new her mother who also taught their aswell she new cutler who went their also] unlike rimmer she was carried from vechicle to dump site what i ask is was she carried to and dumped 40 metres at side of bitumen rd or side of track that runs parallel head west to coast or dump side bitumen head east from coast basically i want to know if she was dumped at side of bitumen rd or side of track theory is he carried body so not to scratch his car the hit [match] found on ahdesive tape at rimmer site by international review found but missed by macro is not the big dna match mentioned by malcolm boots[uk forensic scentist at the review]but obviously would say when we conversed and sms in uk i believe is a victim-suspect or victim-victim[unrelated] or victim-victim [unrelated]to suspect personally i believe a cloths fibre match? by scs ex assist oic vinney kins....saying to me we want physical evidence suggests state crime squad have suspect exibits reason why enquiry is ongoing

Dr.Phibes
Thu 29 Mar 07 (10:39pm)

Phantom, Robin Napper who worked for the centre for Forensic Science at U.W.A (uni of W.A.) & is now a lecturer at U.W.A is giving a lecture on Wed. 18 April at 7.30pm at the Social Science Lecture Theatre. He has worked at the FBI in it`s behavourial science unit as well as other areas to do with Serial Killers etc. I hope to be there. Booking # is 6488 2433 according to the site.Look up Robin Napper on google if u are keen.

tracycudd
Sun 08 Apr 07 (04:49am)

HI all since my last posting, i have had a visit from a national news paper, reguarding mark dixie, alias shane turner, a male friend of mine, who has more stories to tell about him than myself, was here at the time, so once the trial is over the stories will come out, Though i cannot say on the site what we have been told , That dixie has said in his defence, but i must say it is was sick, and made him look worse than he already does , our source has said that his defence team will never let him say it as it does him no favours at all. 
can any one update me on the claremont unsolved murders and wether dixie is still a suspect , in it or any other cases over there thanx tracy

Dr.Phibes
Wed 18 Apr 07 (10:30pm)

It seems the Claremont Serial Killer enjoys Orienteering with a bizarre twist.To those who don`t know what that is; it`s map reading,using a map,compass & visualising terrain hills etc to go over a course or in a direction. It is possible he is directing us to the hills,Parkerville, Mundaring & mabee onto Gidgegannup, fill up the gas tank & take a picnic lunch if anyone heads to gidge.Check out Lovers Lane in Gidgegannup too, Just a stab in the dark with that 1.heh. Please excuse the pun.

riddell
Fri 27 Apr 07 (11:21pm)

I have been reading with interest all the theories on the Sarsh S Sarah M cases any new ideas

Craig
Mon 30 Apr 07 (05:42pm)

I don’t believe that the police have any usable DNA evidence on the Claremont serial killer. If they did then they could have excluded their prime suspect as the killer. It also wouldn’t surprise me if the Gerald Ross case was linked. I believe that all crimes were commited by two young men from the Kwinana area who possibly had access to someone’s taxi.

phantom62
Sun 06 May 07 (12:47am)

You may be right Dr Phibes, about Gidgegannup. The question is where? I have drawn a circle from the centre point between Ciara and Jane. This point is not in Bayview. It is in fact on The Boulevard, City Beach just opposite a small shopping centre and very close to a big block of vacant bush. I traced the centre line at the same angle as the point from Ciara and Jane and I have driven out to Gidge, but the actual point is in the middle of a large block of land so it does not fit the MO for this person. He prefers to dump them near roads or tracks. I will be going to the Stae library soon to check archives of newspapers to make sure about all the facts the cops have given as far as clothing, jewellery and last seen where abouts are as I have them. One of the decriptions for Sarah Spiers was that she was wearing high heeled platform shoes on the night she disappeared. About 2 years ago virtually on the anniversary of Ciara’s murder a high heeled platformed shoe was strung over the power lines at the centre point above. I reported it to the cops but the shoe was still there a few weeks later when I went back. I had a good look around the bush area there too, but not having an exact reference to go to, I was wasting my time although I did find a big pile of bicycles covered by branches there. I told the cops about that too.The next thing to check is each point in the circle every 11 degrees, that being the difference between the body sites 169 and 349 degrees to North and south. One thing I have not checked but will try is to work out how much of the circle is on land in degrees and then divide that by 11. Almost half the circle is in the ocean. That may explain the odd angle. It does roughly run parallel to the WA coast.

Dr.Phibes
Wed 09 May 07 (09:19pm)

Yes!! Phantom. On my perth map(not a topographical map), i measured 215mm south & north from the 2 sites & i too came to the boulevard & not Claremont.(this will vary according to what map we all have, but everyones 2 distances will be the same). As you have obviously run a line from the Pippidinny rd site to Woolcoot Rd. I have drawn some 90Deg angles.If we draw a line at St.quentin ave it roughly goes thru Mundaring to the east.At Bold park @ 90 Deg it runs through Midland.The same distance east i get to Mundaring,Stoneville & Parkerville, approx.I do not get a good feeling at Bold Pk.& its huge as you know.Nor do i at the nearby Boulevard bushland at Wembley Downs near my work. Phantom i will e mail you my next search areas & why i am drawn there.1 is near Boya & other is Parkerville area, but nothing to do with Sarah Mc. M. Then it`s back to Bold Pk etc.

john
Tue 15 May 07 (03:12am)

the latest woman to be found dead in her car near the woolworths shopping centre at stanhope road kalamunda may suggest the serial killer has struck yet again with striking similarities to the deb anderson suspected murder case

john
Tue 15 May 07 (04:35am)

deb anderson although uncertain if she sustained injuries was found in her burnt out car at a [ high profile crime scene area] middle swan shop centre dance drive midland or midland gate shop centre [a correction made to me by an ex scs cop] are in close proximity to kalamunda in this latest case it seems an unsuccessful attempt was made to torch the car and abdominal stab wounds were found a similar fate with the claremont women [an urban myth maybe?]

sam from perth
Thu 17 May 07 (04:29pm)

i have received full info on the condition of both bodys from a coroner friend… any info/detailed articles on any unsolved killings including the deb anderson and recent one in the hills wouldbe appreciated, i would like to see if there arte some possible similarities

Dr.Phibes
Thu 17 May 07 (09:56pm)

John the Middle Swan shops on Dance Drive is a stones throw from my place. As i met Deb Andersons youngish Aunt, I have tried to get her case re-opened but no luck. They recon in the papers the Kalamunda lady,though not from that area,(mabee Dianella or Duncraig) may have tried to commit suicide. I haven`t heard anything more on the case.They questioned her hubby as routine i guess. Here`s a little more on the Sarah Mc Mahon Case, if I may post the link. Kalamunda in the hills is prob 10 ks from Middle Swan,& about 20 ks from the cbd.

http://www.ellisctaylor.com/smwaa.html

riddell
Thu 17 May 07 (11:30pm)

Can someone please tell me who Deb Anderson is i live in Perth i must have missed something Riddell

Dr.Phibes
Thu 24 May 07 (11:21pm)

Hi ya Riddel, Deborah Michelle Anderson visited an atm machine in Woodvale & travelled to Geraldton in her friend`s Ford Laser. She was found about midnight in the burnt out car at the side of the Middle Swan Shops (east side) on Dance drive on JAN 24TH 2000.There used to be a large carpark on that side. On the other side of the bollards there is now a house, that used to be part of the extended carpark.The east wall of the shops was burnt, but relatively undamaged as its brick.Its been repainted. Andy.

Riddell
Tue 29 May 07 (10:16pm)

Thanks for the update Andy i will keep logging on to keep familiar with what you are all working on. thanks Riddell

Seeress
Wed 30 May 07 (08:28pm)

As a psychic I’ve had quite a few feelings of my own about various murders both locally, nationally and internationally as I’m sure most people create and foster their own opinions.

I believe that there is more than one person involved in the CSK’s, two male persons to be specific. I believe that one of them is dominant over the other, however I don’t get the feeling that they are in any kind of homosexual relationship. It’s ‘business as usual’ for the leader, and the other one is in too deep and too stubborn to back out anyway.

I believe that naturally the dominant killer calls the shots. He is obviously a very highly organised killer who plans possibly months ahead of each killing. He did/does not personally know the girls, rather he finds one that fits his ‘fantasy’ and has his partner tail her. I believe they catalogue photographs of each girl for weeks before any move is made. The dominant killer believes he knows each girl imtimately and that they are ‘waiting for a man like him’ in their lives, to the point where leading up to each murder he (or indeed both men) may casually ‘bump’ into the girl in order to facilitate an opportunity for a relationship to commence.

Like most people, I believe that the dominant killer has a military or criminal investigatory background. The submissive killer I believe has a background in photography and investigative journalism. They likely met and have been associates for a long time, and more than likely the dominant killer made several comments to his friend about killing someone before they put the plans into action.

Whilst most of this will be considered pure speculation (and it largely is, granted - I do not profess to blow my own ‘psychic’ horn) I will specify on impressions I get of the murders.

I believe that the killers strangle and rape all girls they kill. The remove the ears, all finger and toenails and also sometimes hair. I believe the submissive killer has a fetish for eating human flesh, and in a frenzy he will bite the bodies before he realises what he is doing. The known victims are not the only victims to fall to this pair. The dominant killer often takes business trips and commits these atrocities intersate and overseas. I believe that the reason there has not been a (recognised) murder committed by the pair in WA for so long is because the scene was too ‘hot’ for them and they have been amusing themselves elsewhere. Every time a new snippet pops up in the news or another suspect is questioned, they laugh, sit back and wait another few months. It’s only a matter of time before another girl is taken.

I do not believe that these men will return to their old haunt in the area of Claremont. I believe that they will change to somewhere more rural in that a smaller town will provide more of a challenge. They’ve been at this for a long time now and they’re getting too complacent.

Again, just my thoughts. Pure speculation combined with an active imagination. I hope whoever is committing these crimes is stopped before they kill again.

author
Thu 31 May 07 (09:28am)

Hi Gary 
Thank you for your help through this website. You may have noticed that my book on the Claremnt Serial Killings, called The Devil’s Garden has now been released in West Australia. Response from WA police was to call a press conference to attack my credibility as an author and journalist. I was accused of “cashing in” on one of West Austalia’s greatest tragedies. My response? That the tragedy is that this book needed to be written in the first place. 
It is my fifth book with an international publishing comany, my third true-crime title. I stand by the book as the truth and would suggest that instead of using police resources to attack me, they could be putting them where they need to go - into finding who this serial killer is. 
Someone knows something. Perhaps a wife protecting a husband, a mother a son, a neighbour too scared to speak out. Police have had carriage of this investigation for 11 years. I was researching and writing the book for one year. Let’s hope that the end result is that someone comes forward. I don’t hold my breath for this outcome, of course, but hope for it - for the sake of the dead girls, and for their grief-stricken families.

Peter Kurtin
Thu 31 May 07 (06:40pm)

There is a strong link between the serial homicide film “copycat” (1995) and the way that the Claremont Serial Killer has imitated previous Perth Serial Killers.

john
Sat 02 Jun 07 (02:43am)

hi sam if you have info about condition of both bodies then did deb anderson sustain abdominal stab wounds? scs seem to think this crime case is linked to a family feud which i utterly reject remembering she met her fate on the anniversary 25 jan of sarah spiers coincidence or fact? also due to there expressions without actually saying it seem to link the popidinka/ mcmahon /ugle crime cases with the latest cime scene at kalamunda stanhope road runs via king road to mundering weir road to farrell grove where the body of prostitute ugle was found in a tree trunk near the toilets also lets not forget 27 jan 2003 the woman found drowned in the mandurah estaury accidental or otherwise did police ever confirm? i believe not remember all 3 woman were victims of the oz day holiday long weekend [approx\

Dallas
Mon 04 Jun 07 (04:21pm)

I have just read through all of this. I haven’t been following the murders closely, but reading through this gives me the creeps, as I was a regular at Club Bay View before and around the time the Claremont killings started.

There used to be a bouncer at Club Bay View. I can’t remember his name. He claimed to be ex SAS, and his day job was working as a Private Investigator. I can’t remember a lot - but he had, I think a black 4wd type of vehicle, and he had camera equipment and all that sort of stuff. In my opinion he was quite creepy - however, I just assumed the police would have investigated him given that he was a bouncer at Club Bay View, and all the girls went there.

Just my thoughts. Have wondered about this before...but then forgotton about it - but reading this again - makes me wonder again.

Phoenix
Mon 04 Jun 07 (08:19pm)

I feel there is a chance that ‘Dr.Phibes’ and ‘John’ are the same person...and that that person is playing very nasty games.

Perthite
Mon 04 Jun 07 (10:36pm)

Dallas of Australia -

John Sainken the psychiatrist would know who the bouncer is after all he 
owned Club Bay View didn’t he. 
I remember at the time Sainken threatening legal action over defamation. 
I believe he no longer owns the club.

Peter Kurtin
Tue 05 Jun 07 (12:27am)

John from England. Australia day long weekend killing spree by a serial killer: Ring any bells? RE my previous comment.

kalz
Tue 05 Jun 07 (04:58pm)

I am leaning towards agreeing with Phoenix…

Hudson
Tue 05 Jun 07 (08:44pm)

On another news site it has been mention that the someone frequenting this site could be involved the fingers have been pointing to Dr Phibes...i can also say too i was a suspect as well and interviewed at home 3 years ago. And was told that a private detective had tried to locate myself when i was in another state to interview myself as well, but have an alibi for 2 out of the 3 murders.

Kakka
Tue 05 Jun 07 (10:30pm)

I think john of uk and Dr Phibes are one and the same.  The writing style is incredibly similar and both have an inordinate knowledge of Perth and its surrounding suburbs.

my 2 pence
Wed 06 Jun 07 (12:23am)

Dr phibes is from a early 70’s movie..

There are also a lot of comments on movies with relation to this sort of genre posted by “infofreak” on IMDB.com, listed as being situated in Perth, Western Australia.

Just a thought.

tracy claremont
Wed 06 Jun 07 (01:56am)

i heard from a good source that 2 policeman were involved in the claremont murders that is y it has not been solved it has been covered up with scape goats like lance williams to lure the killer out what a sad story this is i feel sorry for the tax payers of claremont as the cameres wernt working when the so called used a female decoy that was not enough maybe the wa police force should watch a little more svu criminal intent and look within the circle

Jordan
Wed 06 Jun 07 (07:31am)

Peter Kurtin 
The only spree killing mentioned, in more then passing, in copycat was the Chi Omega killings done by Bundy. 
Nice choice of screen name on your part

Curious reader
Wed 06 Jun 07 (02:44pm)

Dr Phibes of Middle Swan,it seems as though he has/had some dealings with one of the victims of the claremont serial killer.It also seems,if he is to be believed,that the police looked at & dismissed him as a suspect?I too am at a loss.in regard to the way the police have handled the situation, in particular the assertion that the killer has stopped or moved on.There must over ten girls,at least that have disappeared since that time,with several vanishing in not unsimilar circumstances,eg, victims are seen on a street around midnight & then several minutes later they are gone never to be seen again.Its not much but its something.Perhaps the good Dr can be of help? 
Curious

Hendo30
Wed 06 Jun 07 (09:30pm)

I beleive I have a fair idea who it may be. I used to work with a guy and when they found Ciara, the guy turned round and said to start with I know that area and know it quite well. Now we started joking around with him and said oh man you could be the killer, he denied it of course but here is the wierd thing. I heard that they were looking for a 4wd White sort of vehicle. Now he had one it was always prestine inside and out and after we had a bit of a joke about with him, he then after about a week or 2 got rid of the 4WD Ute and got himself a new blue coloured car. He also about a week after getting the new car just left work and never returned, he never came back nothing at all, totally off the radar. Now I’m probably jumping at theories and stuff but this guy was a volunteer for the SES he was a trained nurse and an extremely weird guy. Police beleived it was 2 of them and possibly a woman, now he was married as well and again she was a trained nurse, so they could have easily been able to maybe drug them. I have other info but that at the moment I will keep quiet about. Well hope that gets out somewhere, I have tried to contact crime stopppers in regards to this info but to no avail.

john
Fri 08 Jun 07 (02:35am)

With State Crime Squad OIC A Lee saying in debie marshalls interview in police car on the way to Rimmer and Glennon grave sites “how do you know its not on track already?” in reply to her statement “people want investigation back on track” and then to reiterate “how do you know its not on track already ?” suggests SCS have a potential suspect killer in their sights as I previously mentioned period.

JOHN
Sat 09 Jun 07 (03:06am)

With State Crime Squad OIC A Lee saying in Debie Marshall’s interview in police car on the way to Rimmer and Glennon grave sites “how do you know its not on track already?” in reply to her statement “people want investigation back on track” and then to reiterate “how do you know its not on track already?” suggests that SCS have a potential suspect killer in their sights as I have previously mentioned period.

Ww777
Sat 09 Jun 07 (10:34pm)

hmmm.... “Curious” above seems to have a writing and punctuation style identicle to “Dr Phibes”.... ho hum.

Back on subject though, has it every been publicly announced whether the victims enjoyed recreational drug use, as was (and still is) common in the Perth night-life scene? Working on my own theory, which could also tie in with phantom62’s theories…

lmcd
Mon 11 Jun 07 (12:03am)

Missclaudia,

You obviously have lived, or do live in a city where young women can walk around without fear of violence. Let us not make the mistake of transferring our anger from those responsible for committing such anti-social acts to those that are run off their feet trying to pick up the pieces. Yes solving a case is a very important part of closure for victims’ families but a failure to do so is not neccessarily a refelection of ineptitude. Even a ‘Police State’ can not impact on the MIND of a serial killer.

JOHN
Mon 11 Jun 07 (02:17am)

Debi Marshall ask state crime squad A Lee why in Feb 2006 he tried to deter a meet with me and his high ranked ex assist officer in charge vince kinsella who 1 week after i unexpectedly met with him as he previously asked at scs adelaide terrace perth suddenly resigned theory has it that he was at odds with A Lee over info passed that links csk prime suspect with other cold case crimes and why was Lee apprehensive and lie when asked if he knew me saying no when his ex oic kinsella ex macro martin crane and zuidriyin [the southman!] demobbed by macro and reinstated after independent review by state crime squad who i dealt with did march 2006 and i still await confirmation in regards to this matter from police commissioner karl ocallahan to no avail

thelma
Tue 12 Jun 07 (07:05pm)

Gary

Is this blog moderated?

Dr.Phibes
Tue 12 Jun 07 (11:05pm)

Well i`m back for a look. Well some say John & i are one & the same. All i can do i laff about that 1.John`s comments you have to deciper as he doesn`t know how to use full stops. C`mon John.

Perthite
Thu 14 Jun 07 (07:58pm)

Hendo30

Well it is funny you should say that !!!!!!!!!

perthmel
Sun 17 Jun 07 (01:46am)

Does anyone know if Ciara Glennon had a BF/fiancee when she was murdered? I have someone saying that he was her fiancee when she died and has produced a supposed photo of her and himself together also giving great detail of how Ciara was found.  I have trouble believing his story as Ciara was overseas for a year before she disappeared and there is no mention of any fiance in any story covering her death. 
I want to know if this guy is just a twisted sicko!

pye
Wed 20 Jun 07 (12:24am)

The Old Bailey murder trial of Mark Dixie who was known sometimes to use the name Shane Turner has been delayed for a second time.  The original trial was set for march 07 it was then put back to july 07, apparently UK Police wanted more time to gather evidence from abroad ?.  It has now been put back again to January 08 . Dixie will have spent a year and a half in custody on remand by this time. It does seem to me that there must be something else still being investigated about his time spent in Australia or elswhrre abroad as this does seem to be taking a very long time bringing him to trial due to the fact that there is a DNA match linking Dixie to crime scene any thoughts?

random
Fri 22 Jun 07 (03:55am)

Id tell the police...perthmel if my boyfriend was dribbling such stuff.Doubt there is a link, lots of info is in the public domain and people can talk shizz too.

My uncle works, or did work for a time with Sarahs dad

if the killer who killed these girls reads this, then I hope they realise at SOME point you will be held accountable for your actions. In the greater scheme of things there has to be balancing...aside from that you can eat shit and die screaming.

10 December 2014 

Suspicious fire at 435 Marmion Street Myaree WA 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...r-days/5960520

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/ar...11-124rkd.html

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-32....A!2e0?hl=en-au

This is the very house that Droc claimed to have lived at the time of CSK murders with his then girlfriend, where he claims TT kept his Bedford van (when he wasn't driving taxis) and where he alleges the group involved had a meeting shortly after the CG murder.

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

These papers were originally posted on another website by Droc (after both the fire and the police interview), then quickly deleted by him, and then reposted by me when found online. 

18 December 2014 (one week later)

Droc is interviewed by WA Police regarding the CSK investigation where he refused to complete a questionnaire or provide DNA. 

Police would not comment on his account of the interview.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227168035093

Remarkable timing for a suspicious fire at the house he lived in at the time of the murders just prior to being interviewed by police regarding the investigation. 

In fact on reflection, he is the only person announced in the media as being recently interviewed by the police in connection with the investigation. 

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

Was closely associated with a church in Beaconsfield. Abbati. Pretty tight with John too. Knew some musicians as well in his day. And had access to dozens of cars since he was released from prison.

Sensational claims in his final bigfooty post on 18 March too (about CSK, GR and others).

His photography isn't as good as his associate TT, judging from the picture of the swamp adorning his FB profile:

https://www.facebook.com/noel.coward.3785

Any ideas on what that is all about? Does it hold some symbolism?

Taxi driver TT has some disturbing photography and commentary:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40680616@N06/4700133475/

Not sure what he means by his associated comment - "Very old and warn, what stories this cake knife could tell." What stories could they tell TT?

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...22376634464091

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...55010751200681

https://www.facebook.com/SlutWalkPer...69347849869233

PS: Wasn't Fremantle Prison where David Birnie (who lived in the adjoining suburb to Myaree, Willagee) was initially incarcerated after his crimes in the mid 1980's - with the Stirling Highway his hunting zone and pine forests north and south of Perth his disposal sites. Then Casuarina.

Proverbs 21:15

07-06-2015 Mel 1303 

 Originally Posted by Jezz 

To suggest these girls were prechosen would require a level of luck for the killer that is completely improbable.

I'm going for the wrong place wrong time theory. Killer was opportunistic and these girls just happened to be the unlucky ones.

I agree, I dont believe that these young women were selected prior to their abduction and murder. I was more wondering if loose connection with the killer might have made each or one or two of the women let their guard down- "hey, I remember you from school/ tennis/ the bus" kind of thing.

07-06-2015 Ian Moone 

Wark

I was asked - whether Wark killed the other 2 CSK victims besides just Jane Rimmer?


Wark Killed Ciara!

It would be "easy" from this to say - well yes he MAY have killed Ciara Glennon as well - however a 3 word matrix statistically isn't overly meaningful.

The 5 word search parameters that I entered.. were:-

Frank
Wark
Killed
Ciara
Glennon

So only finding "3 of the 5" search terms isn't statistically at all "definitive".
Yes it suggests that Wark might well be responsible for at least 2 of the 3 CSK victims but it isn't conclusive proof on its own.

07-06-2015  Hermithead 

Great work and a great read! I am glad I went through it all.

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX 

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

What exactly is the motive here for changing his story.. is it not wanting to provide an illegal activity (marijuana smoking) as an alibi to police which would be understandable? Or had CG's murder been made public at this stage and his modified alibi was an attempt to avoid suspicion? A weak alibi seeing the cab fares that he mentions could be confirmed by the taxi company - if this was checked of course.

Originally Posted by ExcaliburX 

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

How much credibility do police give to ex-criminals as witnesses?

07-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX  10 December 2014 

Suspicious fire at 435 Marmion Street Myaree WA 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...r-days/5960520

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/ar...11-124rkd.html

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-32....A!2e0?hl=en-au

This is the very house that Droc claimed to have lived at the time of CSK murders with his then girlfriend, where he claims TT kept his Bedford van (when he wasn't driving taxis) and where he alleges the group involved had a meeting shortly after the CG murder.

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

These papers were originally posted on another website by Droc (after both the fire and the police interview), then quickly deleted by him, and then reposted by me when found online. 

18 December 2014 (one week later)

Droc is interviewed by WA Police regarding the CSK investigation where he refused to complete a questionnaire or provide DNA. 

Police would not comment on his account of the interview.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227168035093

Remarkable timing for a suspicious fire at the house he lived in at the time of the murders just prior to being interviewed by police regarding the investigation. 

In fact on reflection, he is the only person announced in the media as being recently interviewed by the police in connection with the investigation. 

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

Was closely associated with a church in Beaconsfield. Abbati. Pretty tight with John too. Knew some musicians as well in his day. And had access to dozens of cars since he was released from prison.

Sensational claims in his final bigfooty post on 18 March too (about CSK, GR and others).

His photography isn't as good as his associate TT, judging from the picture of the swamp adorning his FB profile:

https://www.facebook.com/noel.coward.3785

Any ideas on what that is all about? Does it hold some symbolism?

Taxi driver TT has some disturbing photography and commentary:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40680616@N06/4700133475/

Not sure what he means by his associated comment - "Very old and warn, what stories this cake knife could tell." What stories could they tell TT?

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...22376634464091

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...55010751200681

https://www.facebook.com/SlutWalkPer...69347849869233

PS: Wasn't Fremantle Prison where David Birnie (who lived in the adjoining suburb to Myaree, Willagee) was initially incarcerated after his crimes in the mid 1980's - with the Stirling Highway his hunting zone and pine forests north and south of Perth his disposal sites. Then Casuarina.

Proverbs 21:15

Very comprehensive and interesting post Ex. I don't buy into the group theory of drocs at all. The profile say's different. I think Droc is more suss than TT, and TT considers himself a bit of a photographer? Looks Amateurish with a queer mix of a natural kook in his art. Potions and stars, very 70's drug fueled rock star and a ray gun... How Frankenfurter of him. His profile pics are the only thing that makes me think SK. And his knife comment... Is that how he see's himself? Creepy shiz. The one thing I take from the recent interview and dna request is that they still don't have a hundred percenter they are just waiting on the evidence for. If you post enough wacked out shiz your bound to be sussed though yeah, and Droc done that in smoking aces. Group nah... TT a long shot but still not someone I would not want in my circle. Droc and this fire is a thought provoking coincidence... Explosions aye. Your a great sleuth mate, thanks for the interesting update. As you said Proverbs....

07-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Hermithead 

Great work and a great read! I am glad I went through it all.
What exactly is the motive here for changing his story.. is it not wanting to provide an illegal activity (marijuana smoking) as an alibi to police which would be understandable? Or had CG's murder been made public at this stage and his modified alibi was an attempt to avoid suspicion? A weak alibi seeing the cab fares that he mentions could be confirmed by the taxi company - if this was checked of course.
How much credibility do police give to ex-criminals as witnesses?

Just because they are criminals doesn't necessarily make them pathological liars. But when you get into the sicko branch of rapists and killers i'd say it's the norm.

07-06-2015  Matt82 

Hi all, just a test post to see if I can put something on. Will post later with my ideas on CSK. Nothing revolutionary, no bs, mult aliases, name calling, wild theories. Just curious as to what happened to these women and feel for their families.

07-06-2015Bartholemeus 

The whole Droc thing is interesting. He was onto TT early in the piece and has shown us evidence that Police lost his information. I even recall reading an article about flaws in the Macro evidence gathering (it was a WAPOL shortcoming that affected the Macro investigation). We can all be nice about it and pretend it didn't happen but there's no doubt Police made massive errors in this case. I think the Police are the only ones denying it these days. Police very rarely publicly admit fault.
As far as I understand, Droc submitted his claims long before LW was a suspect so this was before Macro were "allegedly" tunnel visioned on LW. Furthermore, at the time the police were all over the taxi driver theory.
We can only assume TT was investigated properly. 
Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling. There's no doubt he was convinced TT is the CSK. He started at the CSK being TT then some woman named Michelle who was a prostitute and involved in the killings, to a group of people making a snuff movie.
I wonder what made Droc so convinced? Did TT steal his dream girl and that made Droc bitter and twisted? Had TT been screwing with Droc's head? That comment about the cake knife - there's lots of little comments like that on the internet by TT. Did TT find out Droc put his name up early and ever since has been saying and doing things to make Droc think it's him?
If Droc was the CSK then why would he approach police and say it is someone else? That is just drawing attention

07-06-2017 Hermithead 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling.

Where do we get hold off this evidence?

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling.

Where do we get hold off this evidence?

07-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

If Droc was the CSK then why would he approach police and say it is someone else? That is just drawing attention.

Or a desperate attempt too unflag himself when feeling the heat was on even if it wasn't out of guilt? The whole group into snuff films is just drivel. Who know's what his agenda was. I would like to know if Droc had access to any taxi's around that time? This fire with explosions sounds really suss considering it was his home when the murders took place.

07-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Hermithead  Where do we get hold off this evidence?

Read the big footy thread.

08-06-2017  Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by Shadowboxer 

Or a desperate attempt too unflag himself when feeling the heat was on even if it wasn't out of guilt? The whole group into snuff films is just drivel. Who know's what his agenda was. I would like to know if Droc had access to any taxi's around that time? This fire with explosions sounds really suss considering it was his home when the murders took place.

He was onto TT very early. For Droc to push blame onto someone else means he must have been an initial suspect.
Droc hammered Macro/Wapol for years and years when he would not have been a suspect.
The suspected arson and its timing is a bit sus.
From memory Droc went to jail for a sex crime? Can anyone confirm? Could he have been the "known sexual pervert" that was mentioned on CIA? Or I assume that is more likely to be the dude with the lined boot.

08-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

He was onto TT very early. For Droc to push blame onto someone else means he must have been an initial suspect.
Droc hammered Macro/Wapol for years and years when he would not have been a suspect.

The suspected arson and its timing is a bit sus.

From memory Droc went to jail for a sex crime? Can anyone confirm? Could he have been the "known sexual pervert" that was mentioned on CIA? Or I assume that is more likely to be the dude with the lined boot.

Did he just... The plot thickens. He's a top 3 for me now and his passion for making up this group story shows a bit of phsycosis if you ask me anyway. I really wonder if he had access to a Taxi. Was he once friends with TT? Didn't TT from memory have Taxi's out the back?

Matt82 

5

Meh. A house he was in at some stage had a fire? Hardly evidence he is somehow involved. I think despite his tendency for paranoia and hyperbole, that poster had some interesting information. I find it interesting that the police appear to be pumping out fairly lightweight news stories with **** all new info in them. The only explanation I could come up with is that they might be working on assumptions based on this killer'(s) profile. If other serial killers are anything to go by, this killer is likely highly narcissistic and wants to relish the sense of power they experience seeing the police appear with little to no useful leads on who was responsible. Maybe Police are feeding pissweak stories to the media (eg. Snr detective asked David Birnie for his advice about CSK) that reinforce how little they know, trying to appeal to the killer's need to feel in control of the situation and one step ahead. They may have their eye on a POI, hoping they will gloat to someone or reveal key details.

08-06-2017 Matt82 

PS it isn't me. I was in year 9-10 in regional WA. Every person who makes a comment is inevitably accused at some stage.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page45&s=e7f29c49d2b07aed1ef9705beacb2f2e

Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia P45

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page45&s=dcffa0fdb894e0cf3f16dfc0898d28a7

08-06-2015 Matt82 

For Droc to blame someone else he had to be a suspect?? So if I knew someone who acted suspiciously at the time of a murder and I told police I would only be telling them because I was personally a suspect? I don't agree with your reasoning. Also you need to differentiate between a person who commits a sexual offence and a serial killer who might perform sexual acts. While most sex offenders do not kill people, some killers perform sex acts. Big difference. Don't want to sound too critical- I just think questioning assumptions presents new ideas

08-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Matt82 

Meh. A house he was in at some stage had a fire? Hardly evidence he is somehow involved. I think despite his tendency for paranoia and hyperbole, that poster had some interesting information. I find it interesting that the police appear to be pumping out fairly lightweight news stories with **** all new info in them. The only explanation I could come up with is that they might be working on assumptions based on this killer'(s) profile. If other serial killers are anything to go by, this killer is likely highly narcissistic and wants to relish the sense of power they experience seeing the police appear with little to no useful leads on who was responsible. Maybe Police are feeding pissweak stories to the media (eg. Snr detective asked David Birnie for his advice about CSK) that reinforce how little they know, trying to appeal to the killer's need to feel in control of the situation and one step ahead. They may have their eye on a POI, hoping they will gloat to someone or reveal key details.

Of course the police are pumping our bits of nothing, that's an easy assumption. The Info Droc supplied wasn't interesting unless your into fiction. First it started with TT, then a woman, then a group making snuff films shipped to the middle east. I think it's made up bit by bit as he go's along. Maybe it's out of the Sk's hands to feel highly narcissistic anymore or to relish the sense of power. I don't think they have a number 1 Poi as such but a small group and there recent visit to Droc to ask for a DNA sample and interview was feigned away. What innocent person does that? It also shows they havn't got anyone that they are sure on and just waiting for a dna breakthrough or more evidence. I find a massive fire at the house droc lived in while the girls were killed with explosions a massive red flag. Paranoia over a thread of hair or similar as they were now closing in on him. It's such a big read to go back on but If I remember correctly, TT had taxi's out the back of where Droc lived at the time too which has always been my number one theory and there is a reason it's always been the polices number one theory. It's such a big thread to go back and get all the details through the drivel but I'm keen to know if Droc had access to taxi's at that time.

08-06-2015  Matt82 

You said the info he supplied wasn't interesting, before explaining the info he told you about taxis out the back of his house supports your 'number one theory'. Surely it wasn't all useless then? I agree there were some wild and unfounded twists to his contributions no doubt. But this might lie in the chaotic nature of the way it was delivered, in between him thinking he was being persecuted by the forces of darkness and leaving out heaps of info. Or it was just hogwash created out of a need to find an answer. I'm inclined to believe the women were taken by a guy with a taxi or a car they thought was one, as many others have suggested for pragmatic reasons.
Dear Droc, 
What's your take on the fire that occurred at your old house? Any chance someone left evidence there and needed to dispose of it? I'm not suggesting you are responsible but I am curious about what you said about the van getting fixed at the back of your house. Did you have the people you mentioned living at the back of the Myaree place? Join uuuuus. Play nice if he responds Shadowboxer

08-06-2015   ExcaliburX 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

In case people aren't aware, Noel Coward passed on 17 April 2015 from a heart attack.

RIP