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Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia  P.44 and 69






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07-06-2015

ExcaliburX 

Some strange goings on..

10 December 2014 

Suspicious fire at 435 Marmion Street Myaree WA 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...r-days/5960520

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/ar...11-124rkd.html

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-32....A!2e0?hl=en-au

This is the very house that Droc claimed to have lived at the time of CSK murders with his then girlfriend, where he claims TT kept his Bedford van (when he wasn't driving taxis) and where he alleges the group involved had a meeting shortly after the CG murder.

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

These papers were originally posted on another website by Droc (after both the fire and the police interview), then quickly deleted by him, and then reposted by me when found online. 

18 December 2014 (one week later)

Droc is interviewed by WA Police regarding the CSK investigation where he refused to complete a questionnaire or provide DNA. 

Police would not comment on his account of the interview.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227168035093

Remarkable timing for a suspicious fire at the house he lived in at the time of the murders just prior to being interviewed by police regarding the investigation. 

In fact on reflection, he is the only person announced in the media as being recently interviewed by the police in connection with the investigation. 

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

Was closely associated with a church in Beaconsfield. Abbati. Pretty tight with John too. Knew some musicians as well in his day. And had access to dozens of cars since he was released from prison.

Sensational claims in his final bigfooty post on 18 March too (about CSK, GR and others).

His photography isn't as good as his associate TT, judging from the picture of the swamp adorning his FB profile:

https://www.facebook.com/noel.coward.3785

Any ideas on what that is all about? Does it hold some symbolism?

Taxi driver TT has some disturbing photography and commentary:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40680616@N06/4700133475/

Not sure what he means by his associated comment - "Very old and warn, what stories this cake knife could tell." What stories could they tell TT?

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...22376634464091

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...55010751200681

https://www.facebook.com/SlutWalkPer...69347849869233

PS: Wasn't Fremantle Prison where David Birnie (who lived in the adjoining suburb to Myaree, Willagee) was initially incarcerated after his crimes in the mid 1980's - with the Stirling Highway his hunting zone and pine forests north and south of Perth his disposal sites. Then Casuarina.

Proverbs 21:15

07-06-2015 Mel 1303 

 Originally Posted by Jezz 

To suggest these girls were prechosen would require a level of luck for the killer that is completely improbable.

I'm going for the wrong place wrong time theory. Killer was opportunistic and these girls just happened to be the unlucky ones.

I agree, I dont believe that these young women were selected prior to their abduction and murder. I was more wondering if loose connection with the killer might have made each or one or two of the women let their guard down- "hey, I remember you from school/ tennis/ the bus" kind of thing.

07-06-2015 Ian Moone 

Wark

I was asked - whether Wark killed the other 2 CSK victims besides just Jane Rimmer?


Wark Killed Ciara!

It would be "easy" from this to say - well yes he MAY have killed Ciara Glennon as well - however a 3 word matrix statistically isn't overly meaningful.

The 5 word search parameters that I entered.. were:-

Frank
Wark
Killed
Ciara
Glennon

So only finding "3 of the 5" search terms isn't statistically at all "definitive".
Yes it suggests that Wark might well be responsible for at least 2 of the 3 CSK victims but it isn't conclusive proof on its own.

07-06-2015  Hermithead 

Great work and a great read! I am glad I went through it all.

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX 

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

What exactly is the motive here for changing his story.. is it not wanting to provide an illegal activity (marijuana smoking) as an alibi to police which would be understandable? Or had CG's murder been made public at this stage and his modified alibi was an attempt to avoid suspicion? A weak alibi seeing the cab fares that he mentions could be confirmed by the taxi company - if this was checked of course.

Originally Posted by ExcaliburX View Post

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

How much credibility do police give to ex-criminals as witnesses?

07-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX  10 December 2014 

Suspicious fire at 435 Marmion Street Myaree WA 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...r-days/5960520

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/ar...11-124rkd.html

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-32....A!2e0?hl=en-au

This is the very house that Droc claimed to have lived at the time of CSK murders with his then girlfriend, where he claims TT kept his Bedford van (when he wasn't driving taxis) and where he alleges the group involved had a meeting shortly after the CG murder.

The address 435 Marmion Street Myaree can be found on the first page of the following legal document (sworn or affirmed):

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/02/...e558cbcfca.pdf

These papers were originally posted on another website by Droc (after both the fire and the police interview), then quickly deleted by him, and then reposted by me when found online. 

18 December 2014 (one week later)

Droc is interviewed by WA Police regarding the CSK investigation where he refused to complete a questionnaire or provide DNA. 

Police would not comment on his account of the interview.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227168035093

Remarkable timing for a suspicious fire at the house he lived in at the time of the murders just prior to being interviewed by police regarding the investigation. 

In fact on reflection, he is the only person announced in the media as being recently interviewed by the police in connection with the investigation. 

Remarkable life given his interview which you can find more about below:

http://library.fremantle.wa.gov.au/w...%7D&v46=342133

Was closely associated with a church in Beaconsfield. Abbati. Pretty tight with John too. Knew some musicians as well in his day. And had access to dozens of cars since he was released from prison.

Sensational claims in his final bigfooty post on 18 March too (about CSK, GR and others).

His photography isn't as good as his associate TT, judging from the picture of the swamp adorning his FB profile:

https://www.facebook.com/noel.coward.3785

Any ideas on what that is all about? Does it hold some symbolism?

Taxi driver TT has some disturbing photography and commentary:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40680616@N06/4700133475/

Not sure what he means by his associated comment - "Very old and warn, what stories this cake knife could tell." What stories could they tell TT?

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...22376634464091

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...55010751200681

https://www.facebook.com/SlutWalkPer...69347849869233

PS: Wasn't Fremantle Prison where David Birnie (who lived in the adjoining suburb to Myaree, Willagee) was initially incarcerated after his crimes in the mid 1980's - with the Stirling Highway his hunting zone and pine forests north and south of Perth his disposal sites. Then Casuarina.

Proverbs 21:15

Very comprehensive and interesting post Ex. I don't buy into the group theory of drocs at all. The profile say's different. I think Droc is more suss than TT, and TT considers himself a bit of a photographer? Looks Amateurish with a queer mix of a natural kook in his art. Potions and stars, very 70's drug fueled rock star and a ray gun... How Frankenfurter of him. His profile pics are the only thing that makes me think SK. And his knife comment... Is that how he see's himself? Creepy shiz. The one thing I take from the recent interview and dna request is that they still don't have a hundred percenter they are just waiting on the evidence for. If you post enough wacked out shiz your bound to be sussed though yeah, and Droc done that in smoking aces. Group nah... TT a long shot but still not someone I would not want in my circle. Droc and this fire is a thought provoking coincidence... Explosions aye. Your a great sleuth mate, thanks for the interesting update. As you said Proverbs....

07-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Hermithead 

Great work and a great read! I am glad I went through it all.
What exactly is the motive here for changing his story.. is it not wanting to provide an illegal activity (marijuana smoking) as an alibi to police which would be understandable? Or had CG's murder been made public at this stage and his modified alibi was an attempt to avoid suspicion? A weak alibi seeing the cab fares that he mentions could be confirmed by the taxi company - if this was checked of course.
How much credibility do police give to ex-criminals as witnesses?

Just because they are criminals doesn't necessarily make them pathological liars. But when you get into the sicko branch of rapists and killers i'd say it's the norm.

07-06-2015  Matt82 

Hi all, just a test post to see if I can put something on. Will post later with my ideas on CSK. Nothing revolutionary, no bs, mult aliases, name calling, wild theories. Just curious as to what happened to these women and feel for their families.

07-06-2015Bartholemeus 

The whole Droc thing is interesting. He was onto TT early in the piece and has shown us evidence that Police lost his information. I even recall reading an article about flaws in the Macro evidence gathering (it was a WAPOL shortcoming that affected the Macro investigation). We can all be nice about it and pretend it didn't happen but there's no doubt Police made massive errors in this case. I think the Police are the only ones denying it these days. Police very rarely publicly admit fault.
As far as I understand, Droc submitted his claims long before LW was a suspect so this was before Macro were "allegedly" tunnel visioned on LW. Furthermore, at the time the police were all over the taxi driver theory.
We can only assume TT was investigated properly. 
Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling. There's no doubt he was convinced TT is the CSK. He started at the CSK being TT then some woman named Michelle who was a prostitute and involved in the killings, to a group of people making a snuff movie.
I wonder what made Droc so convinced? Did TT steal his dream girl and that made Droc bitter and twisted? Had TT been screwing with Droc's head? That comment about the cake knife - there's lots of little comments like that on the internet by TT. Did TT find out Droc put his name up early and ever since has been saying and doing things to make Droc think it's him?
If Droc was the CSK then why would he approach police and say it is someone else? That is just drawing attention

07-06-2017 Hermithead 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling.

Where do we get hold off this evidence?

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

Some of Droc's evidence was quite compelling.

Where do we get hold off this evidence?

07-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 


If Droc was the CSK then why would he approach police and say it is someone else? That is just drawing attention.

Or a desperate attempt too unflag himself when feeling the heat was on even if it wasn't out of guilt? The whole group into snuff films is just drivel. Who know's what his agenda was. I would like to know if Droc had access to any taxi's around that time? This fire with explosions sounds really suss considering it was his home when the murders took place.

07-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Hermithead  Where do we get hold off this evidence?

Read the big footy thread.

08-06-2017  Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by Shadowboxer 

Or a desperate attempt too unflag himself when feeling the heat was on even if it wasn't out of guilt? The whole group into snuff films is just drivel. Who know's what his agenda was. I would like to know if Droc had access to any taxi's around that time? This fire with explosions sounds really suss considering it was his home when the murders took place.

He was onto TT very early. For Droc to push blame onto someone else means he must have been an initial suspect.
Droc hammered Macro/Wapol for years and years when he would not have been a suspect.
The suspected arson and its timing is a bit sus.
From memory Droc went to jail for a sex crime? Can anyone confirm? Could he have been the "known sexual pervert" that was mentioned on CIA? Or I assume that is more likely to be the dude with the lined boot.

08-06-2017 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

He was onto TT very early. For Droc to push blame onto someone else means he must have been an initial suspect.
Droc hammered Macro/Wapol for years and years when he would not have been a suspect.

The suspected arson and its timing is a bit sus.

From memory Droc went to jail for a sex crime? Can anyone confirm? Could he have been the "known sexual pervert" that was mentioned on CIA? Or I assume that is more likely to be the dude with the lined boot.

Did he just... The plot thickens. He's a top 3 for me now and his passion for making up this group story shows a bit of phsycosis if you ask me anyway. I really wonder if he had access to a Taxi. Was he once friends with TT? Didn't TT from memory have Taxi's out the back?

Matt82 

5

Meh. A house he was in at some stage had a fire? Hardly evidence he is somehow involved. I think despite his tendency for paranoia and hyperbole, that poster had some interesting information. I find it interesting that the police appear to be pumping out fairly lightweight news stories with **** all new info in them. The only explanation I could come up with is that they might be working on assumptions based on this killer'(s) profile. If other serial killers are anything to go by, this killer is likely highly narcissistic and wants to relish the sense of power they experience seeing the police appear with little to no useful leads on who was responsible. Maybe Police are feeding pissweak stories to the media (eg. Snr detective asked David Birnie for his advice about CSK) that reinforce how little they know, trying to appeal to the killer's need to feel in control of the situation and one step ahead. They may have their eye on a POI, hoping they will gloat to someone or reveal key details.

08-06-2017 Matt82 

PS it isn't me. I was in year 9-10 in regional WA. Every person who makes a comment is inevitably accused at some stage.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page45&s=e7f29c49d2b07aed1ef9705beacb2f2e


Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia P45

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page45&s=dcffa0fdb894e0cf3f16dfc0898d28a7

08-06-2015 Matt82 

For Droc to blame someone else he had to be a suspect?? So if I knew someone who acted suspiciously at the time of a murder and I told police I would only be telling them because I was personally a suspect? I don't agree with your reasoning. Also you need to differentiate between a person who commits a sexual offence and a serial killer who might perform sexual acts. While most sex offenders do not kill people, some killers perform sex acts. Big difference. Don't want to sound too critical- I just think questioning assumptions presents new ideas

08-06-2015 Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Matt82 

Meh. A house he was in at some stage had a fire? Hardly evidence he is somehow involved. I think despite his tendency for paranoia and hyperbole, that poster had some interesting information. I find it interesting that the police appear to be pumping out fairly lightweight news stories with **** all new info in them. The only explanation I could come up with is that they might be working on assumptions based on this killer'(s) profile. If other serial killers are anything to go by, this killer is likely highly narcissistic and wants to relish the sense of power they experience seeing the police appear with little to no useful leads on who was responsible. Maybe Police are feeding pissweak stories to the media (eg. Snr detective asked David Birnie for his advice about CSK) that reinforce how little they know, trying to appeal to the killer's need to feel in control of the situation and one step ahead. They may have their eye on a POI, hoping they will gloat to someone or reveal key details.

Of course the police are pumping our bits of nothing, that's an easy assumption. The Info Droc supplied wasn't interesting unless your into fiction. First it started with TT, then a woman, then a group making snuff films shipped to the middle east. I think it's made up bit by bit as he go's along. Maybe it's out of the Sk's hands to feel highly narcissistic anymore or to relish the sense of power. I don't think they have a number 1 Poi as such but a small group and there recent visit to Droc to ask for a DNA sample and interview was feigned away. What innocent person does that? It also shows they havn't got anyone that they are sure on and just waiting for a dna breakthrough or more evidence. I find a massive fire at the house droc lived in while the girls were killed with explosions a massive red flag. Paranoia over a thread of hair or similar as they were now closing in on him. It's such a big read to go back on but If I remember correctly, TT had taxi's out the back of where Droc lived at the time too which has always been my number one theory and there is a reason it's always been the polices number one theory. It's such a big thread to go back and get all the details through the drivel but I'm keen to know if Droc had access to taxi's at that time.

08-06-2015  Matt82 

You said the info he supplied wasn't interesting, before explaining the info he told you about taxis out the back of his house supports your 'number one theory'. Surely it wasn't all useless then? I agree there were some wild and unfounded twists to his contributions no doubt. But this might lie in the chaotic nature of the way it was delivered, in between him thinking he was being persecuted by the forces of darkness and leaving out heaps of info. Or it was just hogwash created out of a need to find an answer. I'm inclined to believe the women were taken by a guy with a taxi or a car they thought was one, as many others have suggested for pragmatic reasons.
Dear Droc, 
What's your take on the fire that occurred at your old house? Any chance someone left evidence there and needed to dispose of it? I'm not suggesting you are responsible but I am curious about what you said about the van getting fixed at the back of your house. Did you have the people you mentioned living at the back of the Myaree place? Join uuuuus. Play nice if he responds Shadowboxer

08-06-2015   ExcaliburX 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

In case people aren't aware, Noel Coward passed on 17 April 2015 from a heart attack.

RIP

The YouTube video of the wake for Noel AKA Droc is attached.



https://youtu.be/o632_2xAtzo

The YouTube video of the wake for Noel AKA Droc is attached.

According to the Ex Sen, Droc had or had access to 27 cars since his release from prison at age 31 (41:30 onwards in the video).

The Ex Sen, who met Droc in 1982 and supported his release from prison, had to get approval from the Police Commissioner to get a drivers licence for Droc. Assume he was on supervised release / parole with reporting conditions and probably under professional supervision. Interesting that her time in Canberra ceased on 30 June 1996.

Driving around at night with John B mentioned at 15.20.

Plod surveillance mentioned at 11.25 and 26.15.


Business including scouting rubbish dumps and tips mentioned at 13.40.

Last edited by ExcaliburX; 06-08-2015 at 05:20 PM.

08-06-2015    ExcaliburX 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 


From memory Droc went to jail for a sex crime? Can anyone confirm? Could he have been the "known sexual pervert" that was mentioned on CIA? Or I assume that is more likely to be the dude with the lined boot.

BF thread post from Droc 10 March 2015:

MadDocker said: ↑
Droc, in the interest of the thread and after all that has been posted here by you and others, are you willing to let the people here know why you were in Fremantle prison? What happened?
I served 18 months for unlawful carnal knowledge
Droc, Mar 10, 2015 #2271

Last edited by ExcaliburX; 06-08-2015 at 04:54 PM.

08-06-2015     ExcaliburX 

 Originally Posted by Shadowboxer 

Did he just... The plot thickens. He's a top 3 for me now and his passion for making up this group story shows a bit of phsycosis if you ask me anyway. I really wonder if he had access to a Taxi. Was he once friends with TT? Didn't TT from memory have Taxi's out the back?

BF Thread post by Droc 6 March 2015:

I am going to cater to your irrational one last time. I was living in a house with my girlfriend, dog and cat, and from SS disappearance, untill after Ciara Glennon, I was jn that same house, with that same cat and dog, and for much of it doing 7 to 7 night security, and also protecting TT's van he was restoring, and possibly and morel likely, he dropped in on his way to work van, or even left from there after working on his van, so in a twist of irony, and apart from my girlfriend, he i my bet alibi. How about that!

Droc, Mar 6, 2015 #1862

BF Thread post by Droc 5 March 2015:

Are! I was about to say it, and then remembered the warning from the Mod, so not sure now, but yes, I do remember her name(s) hard to forget them all, and her 'artie' ways.

Yes, she lives in Perth, but no, does not see TT. Interesting thing about that, is after the murder of Ciara Glennon three of them congregated at my place, two males outside in the shed, and a third dropping in occasionally, and Michelle inside. There was seemingly much friction, and Michelle was expressing hostility towards him, a hatred,in fact. Soon after she departed for Tasmania, and I do not think they have spoken since.

Droc, Mar 5, 2015 #1794

BF Thread post by Droc 18 March 2015 (part of claimed letter to TT - his final post) #2629

Bit preposterous don't you think for me to bring other players into the game, but then I recalled another one of your (that arrogance again) flippant comments after the murder of Ciara as we sat around the table at Marmion street discussing these murders, you, me, Karen, and sweet heather, and let me quote you! “I think people will be really surprised when they find out who did it (pause) really surprised (pause) that is if they ever catch him (pause) or them.”

Last edited by ExcaliburX; 06-08-2015 at 04:54 PM.

08-06-2015    Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by Matt82 

You said the info he supplied wasn't interesting, before explaining the info he told you about taxis out the back of his house supports your 'number one theory'. Surely it wasn't all useless then? I agree there were some wild and unfounded twists to his contributions no doubt. But this might lie in the chaotic nature of the way it was delivered, in between him thinking he was being persecuted by the forces of darkness and leaving out heaps of info. Or it was just hogwash created out of a need to find an answer. I'm inclined to believe the women were taken by a guy with a taxi or a car they thought was one, as many others have suggested for pragmatic reasons.
Dear Droc,
 
What's your take on the fire that occurred at your old house? Any chance someone left evidence there and needed to dispose of it? I'm not suggesting you are responsible but I am curious about what you said about the van getting fixed at the back of your house. Did you have the people you mentioned living at the back of the Myaree place? Join uuuuus. Play nice if he responds Shadowboxer

Yeah, I would agree with you Matt. Fair call. Some of it did interest me but not the group theory or story. It will always be my number one theory that the girls got in a taxi for reason's I've stated. I'm pretty sure that Droc had access to them as well.

08-06-2015     Shadowboxer 

There’s also the chance the CSK had Drocs home arsoned to make a dead man look guilty of trying to cover something up. SR is a very elusive character it seems. I’m sure he reads the threads, but can’t help but wonder if he’s ever posted under an alias. He’s still my number 1.

08-06-2015      Jezz 

Yeah I like SR for it for a number of reasons. One of which is I knew a guy who used to know him and apparently he is not shy about bragging...

Last edited by Jezz; 06-08-2015 at 09:59 PM.

08-06-2015    AngelJoan 

Oh the heaven and hell of world wide websss

08-06-2015      AngelJoan 

 Originally Posted by Jezz 

Yeah I like SR for it for a number of reasons. One of which is I knew a guy who used to know him and apparently he is not shy about bragging...


Yeah they like to brag don't they

08-06-2015      crabstick 

1. Trinity is near Alkimos, on the line, about 5kms before where Ciara was laid

2. A place where prostitutes would know, and a place where a snuff movie might be made, if there is evidence

Someone must know. A prostitute would have been there.

 Originally Posted by billywhizz 

What does "there is an important item 13kms" mean? Where did an ex defence guy take you?

Eglinton is still called Eglinton, not Trinity, according to Google maps.

v08-06-2015      Hermithead 

Eglinton is more commonly known by the road/dirt track out there - Pipidinny.

v08-06-2015       Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by crabstick 

1. Trinity is near Alkimos, on the line, about 5kms before where Ciara was laid

2. A place where prostitutes would know, and a place where a snuff movie might be made, if there is evidence

Someone must know. A prostitute would have been there.

Do you mind clarifying what you're talking about because I'm lost?





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10-06-2015 crabstick 

Keep the info coming. Yep. A lot of Homeswest and high rise flats in abundance

I believe it was a drainer that found Sharon Mason under a bitumen car park at the rear of the shop on Stirling highway. Loads of back alleys where the old backyard toilets used to sit.

Iona in Scotland is the place of Pythagorean and Druids. Nuns that started the Mosman Park Iona were from Ireland

Bishop Gibney, felt the Mosman Park site reminded him of the Isle of Iona in Scotland, where Irish Saint Columba (or Columcille) founded a community in 563AD. The Scottish Isle of Iona became a centre of learning from which Saint Columba set forth to spread the Gospel. Bishop Gibney hoped that the site in Perth would fulfill the same purpose.
The Presentation Sisters have continued to work throughout Western Australia, providing assistance, advice and other services to the needy, in the true spirit of Nano Nagle.
Foundress of the Presentation Sisters, Nano devoted her life to the education of the poor girls in her hometown of Cork, Ireland. Carrying a lantern through the dark streets, she would visit the sick and needy within the community, offering hope and compassion. The lantern has become a symbol for the Presentation Sisters, representing her kindness and God’s love for the poor.

Five Presentation Sisters from Kildare, Ireland, followed a call in the 1900s that brought them to Western Australia.

 

 Originally Posted by IONAGIRL 

I went to Iona for 12 years and knew Julie Cutler and Ciara Glennon and still question if "the old psych" stems from there....not all is as it seems with many hypocritical characters lurking those hallways.... Lorrin Whitehead was also a school friend (I doubt Lorrin's disappearance is linked in any way... we also grew up with Sharon Mason in Mosman Park, which was a very seedy place back in those days..I feel Sharon's murder may well be linked to the CSK, perhaps Arthur Greer is innocent after all. Also very strange with the Mallard case.. stealing a challice from Iona then posing as a detective the following day... so saddened by all of these abductions and murders :-(

 

10-06-2015  Originally Posted by IONAGIRL View Post

I went to Iona for 12 years and knew Julie Cutler and Ciara Glennon and still question if "the old psych" stems from there....not all is as it seems with many hypocritical characters lurking those hallways.... Lorrin Whitehead was also a school friend (I doubt Lorrin's disappearance is linked in any way... we also grew up with Sharon Mason in Mosman Park, which was a very seedy place back in those days..I feel Sharon's murder may well be linked to the CSK, perhaps Arthur Greer is innocent after all. Also very strange with the Mallard case.. stealing a challice from Iona then posing as a detective the following day... so saddened by all of these abductions and murders :-(

 

10-06-2015   crabstick 

Here is some Iona Isle history by Iona Orr Miller 

http://herebedragons.weebly.com/iona-mystic-island.html

This mystic island was sacred to megalithic, iron and bronze age pagans, Druids and Celtic Christians alike. 

The theme of triple-death occurs in several places in medieval Celtic sources. The first story comes from the Life of St. Columba (Vita Columbae):

Last edited by crabstick; 06-10-2015 at 04:31 AM.

 

 

10-06-2015    ExcaliburX 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

He was onto TT very early. For Droc to push blame onto someone else means he must have been an initial suspect.
Droc hammered Macro/Wapol for years and years when he would not have been a suspect.

The suspected arson and its timing is a bit suss.

Agree. 
Droc appears to have made his claims solely against TT with the support of his self acknowledged powerful friends, until he was interviewed by police (refusing to provide DNA and a statement) after the suspicious fire at his old house a week before, and then his story changed. 
Dramatically.
Including more than CSK and more than TT.
With the police focus on a single perp / profile and the DNA testing of taxi drivers, I would assume that someone previously tested would be feeling pretty confident they had been eliminated.
Until late last year. 
Police advance on DNA testing and new enquiries.
That POI have been subsequently eliminated through DNA testing indicates there must be associated DNA evidence. 
If multiple perps (such as Droc alluded to) were involved this would negate the elimination of POI solely on DNA. A murder may be committed with two or more perps and one or more might not be stupid enough to leave DNA. Particularly if one was driving and was not involved in any direct physical contact with the victim. 
It would be interesting to review the remaining mutual friendships (if any) of Droc and TT. 

Given the vehement hatred of TT by Droc over what appears to be close to two decades and his claims that he is a SK, you'd think it would challenging to remain friends with both unless you had some vested interest in "sitting on the fence".Droc had some interaction with TT through social media in August 2014, shortly after TT comments about the Jill M case in Melbourne (whatever they actually meant). 

The day after that social media interaction a picture of the swamp appeared in Drocs profile background (referred to in my first post). Very odd subject matter and timing and wonder if there was some symbolism in that exchange.

I certainly don't have a profile background of a swamp and hopefully you don't either. Particularly after an exchange with someone the day before you have claimed is a SK.

Also very interested in the comments made in the final Droc posting on the BF thread. There has been very little discussion on that despite the gravity of what was claimed and I wonder why that is.

As for the suspicious fire that occurred a week before his police interview. 

Powerball / lotto odds I reckon. 

Regarding a set up to indicate guilt, who knew his address from the mid 1990's? How did they know he was to be interviewed by police in a weeks time? Who knew this? 

Also why did he delete the stat dec from the BF site with the Myaree address, and probably more importantly, why the secrecy about that address anyway (particularly when you haven't lived there for over a decade)?

And the comments by Droc about rituals and masks.

Last edited by ExcaliburX; 06-10-2015 at 08:52 AM.

 

10-06-2015 perthgirl 

Hello. Ive been reading this entire thread and believe i had a close encounter after Sarah was taken.
My friend and i were about 17 and we were in Fremantle late at night between 11pm-2am.
We were stopped by a man in police uniform with a large white police van with no windows.
He got out the car and after talking, he wanted us to come back to his warehouse near the East Fremantle Train Station because he said he was a professional photographer and wanted to take photos of us. I dont want to give too much detail, but the whole conversation has stuck with me for almost 20 years. This guy was weird. There were no other cars around and he was trying everything to get us to come with him. Hence the fact he was soposed to be a police officer working at the time.

 

10-06-2015     crabstick Trinity is a estate or suburb name approximately 5km prior to Ciaras body on the same line. The suburbs in the two victims areas have some theme. Not to mention their proximity the freeway. Has the freeway been essentially diverted around these places or was the freeway always intended its current path?
Trinity was where St Patrick students went to post the closure of St Patrick boys school in Perth.
Jane was found in a drain. Ciaras in once a swamp area? Or has it always been dry? Spectacles has a drain that runs parallel 400 metres to the 2 victims lay line.
Sorry Im not telling anyone about the other place. Police know about it. It has relevance to the body.
Was Gerard Ross abducted west of Janes body? It appears near. And his body dumped on the 77? Pending the info given online is true

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

Do you mind clarifying what you're talking about because I'm lost?

 

 

10-06-2015      Sutton 

 

 Originally Posted by perthgirl 

Hello. Ive been reading this entire thread and believe i had a close encounter after Sarah was taken.
My friend and i were about 17 and we were in Fremantle late at night between 11pm-2am.
We were stopped by a man in police uniform with a large white police van with no windows.
He got out the car and after talking, he wanted us to come back to his warehouse near the East Fremantle Train Station because he said he was a professional photographer and wanted to take photos of us. I dont want to give too much detail, but the whole conversation has stuck with me for almost 20 years. This guy was weird. There were no other cars around and he was trying everything to get us to come with him. Hence the fact he was soposed to be a police officer working at the time.

Amazing you read past the first pages. I've been following cases on WS for years and the odd posts in this thread are exhausting. 

Have you looked at pictures of the suspects? Are they a match for the 'police officer' you encountered? Did you you ever tell the actual police of your experience? How did y'all get out of going with him?

 

10-06-2015       Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by Sutton 

Amazing you read past the first pages. I've been following cases on WS for years and the odd posts in this thread are exhausting. 

Have you looked at pictures of the suspects? Are they a match for the 'police officer' you encountered? Did you you ever tell the actual police of your experience? How did y'all get out of going with him?

The answer lies with "East Fremantle Train Station". Google it.

 

10-06-2015        Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by AngelJoan 

exactly which part does "the answer" lie with.

East Fremantle Station doesn't exist. A Perthite would know this.......
snap.

 

10-06-2015        Jezz 

Google East freo train station?
Anyone else feel like we are slipping back down the rabbit hole?

 

 

10-06-2015        AngelJoan 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

East Fremantle Station doesn't exist. A Perthite would know this.......


snap.

Yes, obviously. 
As a Perthite who frequently drives past where the old east fremantle train station used to be, I was well aware that it no longer exists.
I didn't realize that was the point, and if it is, then I'm not sure I get the connection?
You said google it, and I did. 
The only search result, other than your cryptic clue on the previous page, linked to an article about a suspicious death that happened near the old east fremantle train station. 
That's why I said "interesting locations and interesting names", but what does someone getting run over by a train near a train station that no longer exists, almost 129 years ago, got to do with the csk?

 

11-06-2015 Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by AngelJoan 

As a Perthite who frequently drives past where the old east fremantle train station used to be, I was well aware that it no longer exists.

I'm curious as to why you said that nearly 20 years ago a guy wanted to take you to his warehouse "near East Fremantle Train Station" when it didn't exist and hadn't existed for over 100 years? It just seems like an odd thing to say.

 

 

11-06-2015  Hermithead 

 Originally Posted by Jezz 

Anyone else feel like we are slipping back down the rabbit hole?

I am with you Jezz. Subjectivity has given way to objectivity again. Maybe an earlier reminder from the mod might help pull us back.

 Originally Posted by bessie 

Use the ALERT feature (triangle icon beneath each post) to report a problem, of send a pm to a mod (which in thread would be yours truly).

If another poster consistently bugs the heck out of you, add his/her name to your IGNORE list so you won't see his/her posts, nor receive pm's from him/her.

 

perthgirl 

<modsnip> its the train station before Fremantle. North Fremantle train station is obviously what i meant to say.


I dont know any damn warehouse in Freo at all. Im telling you what i was told by the police officer at the time.
<modsnip>
Your all weird to be so self involved in something like this.

Why do you think nobody knows for certain what he did to the bodies, and its all hear say??
Because the police dont want the info released because there has been over 100 psychos out there who have claimed to be the killer.
I can tell you, you are all completely way off the radar.
My friend did the autopsies and none of you have any idea of what you are talking about.
<modsnip>

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:39 PMReason: if you have something to say, then just say it and leave out the profanity and insults!

 

11-06-2015Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by perthgirl 

<modsnip> its the train station before Fremantle. North Fremantle train station is obviously what i meant to say.


I dont know any damn warehouse in Freo at all. Im telling you what i was told by the police officer at the time.
<modsnip>
Your all weird to be so self involved in something like this.

Why do you think nobody knows for certain what he did to the bodies, and its all hear say??
Because the police dont want the info released because there has been over 100 psychos out there who have claimed to be the killer.
I can tell you, you are all completely way off the radar.
My friend did the autopsies and none of you have any idea of what you are talking about.
<modsnip>.

A lot of people come into CSK threads and make stuff up. It gets tiring and it wastes peoples' time having to trawl through all the rubbish. If you say you are telling the truth then I will be happy to take it at face value.

It's definitely true that WAPOL have kept very tight lipped about what happened to the bodies. You did very well to find out because as you say, nobody knows for certain.

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:40 PMReason: snipped quoted post

 

 

11-6-2-15 Hermithead 

 

The fact that the forum worked out that it was actually North Fremantle station shows good sleuthing 

 

 

 

 

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page47

Bartholemeus 

<modsnip>I simply got confused. Nothing else to it. 

Accurate information and the clear delineation between fact and opinion is paramount in CSK discussions. The BF thread was widely regarded as the best on the internet until it was over run with people who inhabit and destroy every CSK thread on the internet.

Can we just not go down the same track on this thread?

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:41 PMReason: snipped quoted post

 

Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by AngelJoan 

When are people going to realize that it is all linked, that is why we are all so convinced we are correct, and all so emotionally involved in this?

Or do you all still think I'm just nuts?

So what is it that "is all linked"?

You must have a concrete theory and I'd love to hear it.

Who is your prime suspect?
Where is SS?
Why were the other bodies found and not SS?
How did the CSK get the girls into the car?
Why did he stop

 

perthgirl 

I understand. But im not like all those crazy people out there.
I have a heart and i have a soul, so coming onto a forum especially on this topic, to be accused of making it up, is quite offensive.
Im a real nice person, and it seems if a person gets one thing wrong on this forum, they are torn to shreds. Accused of being a liar of even the killer.

 

 

Hermithead 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

So what is it that "is all linked"?

You must have a concrete theory and I'd love to hear it.

Who is your prime suspect?
Where is SS?
Why were the other bodies found and not SS?
How did the CSK get the girls into the car?
Why did he stop?

Add to that: eyewitnesses, DNA evidence, trace evidence, confirmed POIs ...

 

 

 

Parkie 

 Originally Posted by perthgirl 

<modsnip>its the train station before Fremantle. North Fremantle train station is obviously what i meant to say.


I dont know any damn warehouse in Freo at all. Im telling you what i was told by the police officer at the time.
<modsnip>
Your all weird to be so self involved in something like this.

Why do you think nobody knows for certain what he did to the bodies, and its all hear say??
Because the police dont want the info released because there has been over 100 psychos out there who have claimed to be the killer.
I can tell you, you are all completely way off the radar.
My friend did the autopsies and none of you have any idea of what you are talking about.
<modsnip>

Ok Perth Girl; Your friend did the Autopsies?, and you know cause you say you know. Ok I`m happy with that. Now say what happened to them prove you are not BS. No saying you were sworn to secrecy or sh** like that, lets cut to the mustard, tell us, we`re all ears here hey...lots of them... Bet you a million bucks you won`t or rather can`t. Can`t means; being you "don`t have a clue." and are guessing. Here`s your chance to get it all out, lmao.

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:44 PMReason: snipped quoted post

 

 

crabstick 

These were my thoughts. What were their interests or commonality if they weren't abducted by a cab?
Scouts? Dancing? 

Cutler had been to a catered event. Ciara had been organising catering the night before at a yacht club in Mosman park. Jane had been taken to Mosman park via a taxi and dropped off, allegedly.

Two of the victims worked in legally apparent. Rayney worked in legal. Rayney was dancing prior. Line dancing. Any of the girls line dance or similar?

Rayney was from South Perth, Spiers from South Perth.

Another missing victim not considered related was burnt in a car on Dance drive out Middle Swan way. The nature of the subject case and discovered body proximity locations that a person or persons may have been hinting at police it was related or copy cat. Or a group are letting each other know in a sick game.

Rayney means Queen in Celtic. The place card discovered in a game of guess the celebrity at a wedding had been discovered at the burial body site with The Queen on the back. The 'queen' had been buried in 'kings' park.

If you set up the DPP and they went to prison, you would be King in your little world. Was he set up? He wrote a book that was an absolute invitation to do so.

The quantity of missing persons and unsolved cases are indicative of someone who knows forensics, a cop or coroner. The sites had been cleaned or had evidence of a chemicals all over them. Its a big state. 

Another missing person around the same time worked in the area too. The abductors appear to have access to a building in that immediate area. A person who worked in that immediate area?

When I saw light vehicle in the video, a Kingswood station wagon my immediate thoughts were a convent vehicle which were all a specific white.

Ciaras mother worked at Iona as a teacher. Her father a prominent figure in the Liberal party.

Revenge? Hatred? 

 Originally Posted by IONAGIRL 

Hi Mel1303n Jane's interests at school I wonder, perhaps there could be a link that way??

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

 

crabstick 

And when someone said snuff movie and prostitutes, the place we found, this was a very real possibility. 

This place is busy since the Big Footy thread was blocked, and people banned.

 

AngelJoan 

 Originally Posted by crabstick 

And when someone said snuff movie and prostitutes, the place we found, this was a very real possibility. 

This place is busy since the Big Footy thread was blocked, and people banned.

crabstick did you watch the vid I mention above?

11-06-201





Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia
 P47


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?222868-Claremont-Serial-Killer-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia/page47

12-06-2015   Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX 

That POI have been subsequently eliminated through DNA testing indicates there must be associated DNA evidence. 
The day after that social media interaction a picture of the swamp appeared in Drocs profile background (referred to in my first post). Very odd subject matter and timing and wonder if there was some symbolism in that exchange.
Also very interested in the comments made in the final Droc posting on the BF thread. There has been very little discussion on that despite the gravity of what was claimed and I wonder why that is.
As for the suspicious fire that occurred a week before his police interview. 


Powerball / lotto odds I reckon. 

Regarding a set up to indicate guilt, who knew his address from the mid 1990's? How did they know he was to be interviewed by police in a weeks time? Who knew this? 

Also why did he delete the stat dec from the BF site with the Myaree address, and probably more importantly, why the secrecy about that address anyway (particularly when you haven't lived there for over a decade)?

Will be reading Droc's final post as soon as I get the kids off. 
I think anyone who read the BF thread would have that address wouldn't they?
Yes Powerball odds on that exact address being arsoned with such force as explosive... agreed.

 

12-06-2015    Shadowboxer 

Having read Droc's earlier posts how someone had already been into the factory room to collect something buried makes me think it's either a very well thought out story that grew or something that macro has looked at already. Riveting stuff either way. PM for my Facebook name or with link.

 

212-06-2015  Parkie 

I know from some girls that some of the kerbies like the Str/on. Nothing to do with the investigation of course. Nothing will come out now re the CSK. Caporns stuff up.

 

11-06-2015  Bartholemeus 

<modsnip>I simply got confused. Nothing else to it. 

Accurate information and the clear delineation between fact and opinion is paramount in CSK discussions. The BF thread was widely regarded as the best on the internet until it was over run with people who inhabit and destroy every CSK thread on the internet.

Can we just not go down the same track on this thread?

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:41 PMReason: snipped quoted post

 

11-06-2015  Bartholemeus 

 Originally Posted by AngelJoan 

When are people going to realize that it is all linked, that is why we are all so convinced we are correct, and all so emotionally involved in this?

Or do you all still think I'm just nuts?

So what is it that "is all linked"?

You must have a concrete theory and I'd love to hear it.

Who is your prime suspect?
Where is SS?
Why were the other bodies found and not SS?
How did the CSK get the girls into the car?
Why did he stop

 

11-06-2015  perthgirl 

I understand. But im not like all those crazy people out there.
I have a heart and i have a soul, so coming onto a forum especially on this topic, to be accused of making it up, is quite offensive.
Im a real nice person, and it seems if a person gets one thing wrong on this forum, they are torn to shreds. Accused of being a liar of even the killer.

 

 

11-06-2015  Hermithead 

 Originally Posted by Bartholemeus 

So what is it that "is all linked"?

You must have a concrete theory and I'd love to hear it.

Who is your prime suspect?
Where is SS?
Why were the other bodies found and not SS?
How did the CSK get the girls into the car?
Why did he stop?

Add to that: eyewitnesses, DNA evidence, trace evidence, confirmed POIs ...

 

 

 

11-06-2015  Parkie 

 Originally Posted by perthgirl 

<modsnip>its the train station before Fremantle. North Fremantle train station is obviously what i meant to say.


I dont know any damn warehouse in Freo at all. Im telling you what i was told by the police officer at the time.
<modsnip>
Your all weird to be so self involved in something like this.

Why do you think nobody knows for certain what he did to the bodies, and its all hear say??
Because the police dont want the info released because there has been over 100 psychos out there who have claimed to be the killer.
I can tell you, you are all completely way off the radar.
My friend did the autopsies and none of you have any idea of what you are talking about.
<modsnip>

Ok Perth Girl; Your friend did the Autopsies?, and you know cause you say you know. Ok I`m happy with that. Now say what happened to them prove you are not BS. No saying you were sworn to secrecy or sh** like that, lets cut to the mustard, tell us, we`re all ears here hey...lots of them... Bet you a million bucks you won`t or rather can`t. Can`t means; being you "don`t have a clue." and are guessing. Here`s your chance to get it all out, lmao.

Last edited by bessie; 06-12-2015 at 10:44 PMReason: snipped quoted post

 

 

crabstick 

These were my thoughts. What were their interests or commonality if they weren't abducted by a cab?
Scouts? Dancing? 
Cutler had been to a catered event. Ciara had been organising catering the night before at a yacht club in Mosman park. Jane had been taken to Mosman park via a taxi and dropped off, allegedly.
Two of the victims worked in legally apparent. Rayney worked in legal. Rayney was dancing prior. Line dancing. Any of the girls line dance or similar?
Rayney was from South Perth, Spiers from South Perth.
Another missing victim not considered related was burnt in a car on Dance drive out Middle Swan way. The nature of the subject case and discovered body proximity locations that a person or persons may have been hinting at police it was related or copy cat. Or a group are letting each other know in a sick game.
Rayney means Queen in Celtic. The place card discovered in a game of guess the celebrity at a wedding had been discovered at the burial body site with The Queen on the back. The 'queen' had been buried in 'kings' park.
If you set up the DPP and they went to prison, you would be King in your little world. Was he set up? He wrote a book that was an absolute invitation to do so.
The quantity of missing persons and unsolved cases are indicative of someone who knows forensics, a cop or coroner. The sites had been cleaned or had evidence of a chemicals all over them. Its a big state. 
Another missing person around the same time worked in the area too. The abductors appear to have access to a building in that immediate area. A person who worked in that immediate area?
When I saw light vehicle in the video, a Kingswood station wagon my immediate thoughts were a convent vehicle which were all a specific white.
Ciaras mother worked at Iona as a teacher. Her father a prominent figure in the Liberal party.
Revenge? Hatred? 

 Originally Posted by IONAGIRL 

Hi Mel1303n Jane's interests at school I wonder, perhaps there could be a link that way??

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

 11-06-2015  crabstick 

And when someone said snuff movie and prostitutes, the place we found, this was a very real possibility. 
This place is busy since the Big Footy thread was blocked, and people banned.

 11-06-2015  AngelJoan 

 Originally Posted by crabstick 

And when someone said snuff movie and prostitutes, the place we found, this was a very real possibility. 
This place is busy since the Big Footy thread was blocked, and people banned.

crabstick did you watch the vid I mention above?

12-06-2015 crabstick 

 (modsnip)

Crabstick did you watch the vid? 

No I didnt. I must say when someone pointed out thei body locations, and the vector between passed through the Claremont hotel, I took a greater interest. Planned and calculated it was. This was no random abduction. I would not be surprised at a group, not yet been interviewed. Even a cop involved. 

Did analog scanners pick up taxi two way in the day?

Last edited by bessie; 06-11-2015 at 12:11 PMReason: Not for public discussion

 

11-06-2015  AngelJoan 

 Originally Posted by crabstick 

These were my thoughts. What were their interests or commonality if they weren't abducted by a cab?
Scouts? Dancing? 

Cutler had been to a catered event. Ciara had been organising catering the night before at a yacht club in Mosman park. Jane had been taken to Mosman park via a taxi and dropped off, allegedly.

Two of the victims worked in legally apparent. Rayney worked in legal. Rayney was dancing prior. Line dancing. Any of the girls line dance or similar?

Rayney was from South Perth, Spiers from South Perth.

Another missing victim not considered related was burnt in a car on Dance drive out Middle Swan way. The nature of the subject case and discovered body proximity locations that a person or persons may have been hinting at police it was related or copy cat. Or a group are letting each other know in a sick game.

Rayney means Queen in Celtic. The place card discovered in a game of guess the celebrity at a wedding had been discovered at the burial body site with The Queen on the back. The 'queen' had been buried in 'kings' park.

If you set up the DPP and they went to prison, you would be King in your little world. Was he set up? He wrote a book that was an absolute invitation to do so.

The quantity of missing persons and unsolved cases are indicative of someone who knows forensics, a cop or coroner. The sites had been cleaned or had evidence of a chemicals all over them. Its a big state. 

Another missing person around the same time worked in the area too. The abductors appear to have access to a building in that immediate area. A person who worked in that immediate area?

When I saw light vehicle in the video, a Kingswood station wagon my immediate thoughts were a convent vehicle which were all a specific white.

Ciaras mother worked at Iona as a teacher. Her father a prominent figure in the Liberal party.

Revenge? Hatred?

A number of things yes. Did you watch the vid?
Did anything in particular stand out at you? In particular to some of your more unusual theories about numbers, angles and lay lines, ink and ireland?
Also, South Beach big clue.
Perthite, if you know what happened to the bodies, have you googled EFTS in inverted commas and read the article in the one search result?

12-06-2015   billywhizz 

Why do all the freaks come out every time something interesting is posted and then distract anyone from discussing it??

Every. single. time.

12-06-2015  crabstick 

If a two way scanner was used to pick up taxi traffic. The girls that rang a cab, did they give their first name or surname? 
At the time, two way was used to dish out the job addresses and a name given by the caller, over a two way? 
The server will get an IP but it may stop there, out of Russia. Cops can use a range of modelling gathered by association, packet sniffing yada yada etc. The server can pull all sorts of data off your machine or device.
What business was at 347 Stirling highway at the time?
Are all the victims of the same religious political demographic?

 

 

12-06-2015   Shadowboxer 

 Originally Posted by ExcaliburX 

That POI have been subsequently eliminated through DNA testing indicates there must be associated DNA evidence. 
The day after that social media interaction a picture of the swamp appeared in Drocs profile background (referred to in my first post). Very odd subject matter and timing and wonder if there was some symbolism in that exchange.
Also very interested in the comments made in the final Droc posting on the BF thread. There has been very little discussion on that despite the gravity of what was claimed and I wonder why that is.
As for the suspicious fire that occurred a week before his police interview. 

Powerball / lotto odds I reckon. 

Regarding a set up to indicate guilt, who knew his address from the mid 1990's? How did they know he was to be interviewed by police in a weeks time? Who knew this? 

Also why did he delete the stat dec from the BF site with the Myaree address, and probably more importantly, why the secrecy about that address anyway (particularly when you haven't lived there for over a decade)?

Will be reading Droc's final post as soon as I get the kids off. 
I think anyone who read the BF thread would have that address wouldn't they?
Yes Powerball odds on that exact address being arsoned with such force as explosive... agreed.

 

12-06-2015    Shadowboxer 

Having read Droc's earlier posts how someone had already been into the factory room to collect something buried makes me think it's either a very well thought out story that grew or something that macro has looked at already. Riveting stuff either way. PM for my Facebook name or with link.

212-06-2015  Parkie 

I know from some girls that some of the kerbies like the Str/on. Nothing to do with the investigation of course. Nothing will come out now re the CSK. Caporns stuff up.

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